RE: Evil
August 30, 2015 at 9:17 am
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2015 at 9:22 am by robvalue.)
Nestor: You've pretty much lost me I'm afraid. You said I assume morality is objective? No, I don't at all. Morality is a judgement; an opinion, so yes, it is subjective. Nothing is inherently good/bad/whatever. All we can do is try and agree on a value system: what is important. We can then discuss how best to maximise that value and minimise harm to it. But if we can't agree on what is valuable and what is not, we can't even begin to talk about right or wrong. Once we've agreed on the value system, we can then make reasonable comparisons between different actions. But an "objective morality" would have to either make those value decisions for us, or else be subjective to our chosen values.
I'm not sure what your idea of morality is. I'm not trying to be difficult I just don't get what you are saying.
DBP: Wtf? Rape is on the moral list? Well it doesn't surprise me that much, Christianity and Islam clearly say women are basically property. This is what I'm saying. These religions don't value women as much as we do, so their "morality" will be different. How can anyone say who is right or wrong? Who gets to decide? Obviously we think they are wrong, because we are judging using our value system. And they'd think we are wrong, for the same reason. You can't say who is right or wrong without first deciding who has the "right" set of values...
I'm not sure what your idea of morality is. I'm not trying to be difficult I just don't get what you are saying.
DBP: Wtf? Rape is on the moral list? Well it doesn't surprise me that much, Christianity and Islam clearly say women are basically property. This is what I'm saying. These religions don't value women as much as we do, so their "morality" will be different. How can anyone say who is right or wrong? Who gets to decide? Obviously we think they are wrong, because we are judging using our value system. And they'd think we are wrong, for the same reason. You can't say who is right or wrong without first deciding who has the "right" set of values...
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