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It's Unconstitutional for the Police to Kill People
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RE: It's Unconstitutional for the Police to Kill People
(September 25, 2016 at 3:31 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:You don't know what happened in that situation at all.  So to say you know this black cop commited a murder is just an assumption.

I saw the tape.  You can too if you want to.  The cops claimed he made a threatening gesture with a gun.  I saw a man get out of a car and could not tell if he had anything in his hands because his arms were down at this side.  He backed away from his car and in seconds was murdered without ever raising his arms or making any kind of gesture. 

What the cops say - and this happens consistently - is not supported by the video evidence.

If there is no apparent reason to shoot - and remember that none of the other cops fired which to my mind means they saw nothing which would give them an excuse to start firing off their shiny guns - it is murder.

I can't help it if you don't like it but do not try to tell me what I saw on that video.

I'm not trying to tell you what you saw.

You didn't see a gun but you can see an ankle holster in some parts of some video clips you can also see what looks like a gun, the police say they recovered the gun and a lab analysis linked Keith Scott to the gun unless you think that was a conspiracy.

So what you basically have is an armed felon who's refusing to drop the gun while he's being asked to drop the gun.

I agree though I can't see any gestures of a threat and wether the police invented that as a lie to protect themselves or it's based on what they thought they saw in the heat of the moment while dealing with an armed felon I don't know.

Although I haven't found a statement by the police where they claim he did make a threatening gesture with the gun.

 According to the department, officer Brentley Vinson “perceived Mr Scott’s actions and movements as an imminent physical threat to himself and the other officers”, and fired.

 I take that to mean his actions being walking backwards while not dropping the weapon and obeying commands were considered a threat to the police officers.

There could be other police statements I don't know.

Kerr Putney, the Charlotte-Mecklenburg police chief, said officers were searching for a suspect on Tuesday when they saw 43-year-old Keith Lamont Scott exit a vehicle with a handgun, and mistook him for the wanted man.

He said the officers told Scott, who was black, to drop his gun and that he got out of the vehicle a second time still carrying the gun.
He said the man was shot because he potentially posed a threat, but added that it was unclear whether he at any point pointed the weapon at police. A weapon was recovered by detectives at the scene.

Again nothing about a gesture with a gun but just that he posed a potential threat due to not dropping the weapon.


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RE: It's Unconstitutional for the Police to Kill People - by paulpablo - September 25, 2016 at 4:10 pm

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