RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
May 22, 2017 at 8:25 pm
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2017 at 8:29 pm by Regina.)
Personally I struggle to understand the amount of atheists who talk about morality being subjective too
There are certain aspects of morality that are, but I think they concern smaller trivial things, like whether it's justified to be rude to people if you're having a bad day or if spending your own money on useless shit you want rather than need is ok. It can also concern what is considered to be the "correct" consequence for a certain action.
When it comes to bigger shit like murder, rape and child molestation though, those are pretty objectively fucking bad. I don't know how anyone can sit there and say there's any subjectivity on that, and that those things can be acceptable within the context of "culture" or a different "societal opinion". Are you going to willingly submit to your own murder and suddenly feel good about having a knife thrust into your stomach, because the person doing it to you thinks it's morally right? Ugh no.
There are certain aspects of morality that are, but I think they concern smaller trivial things, like whether it's justified to be rude to people if you're having a bad day or if spending your own money on useless shit you want rather than need is ok. It can also concern what is considered to be the "correct" consequence for a certain action.
When it comes to bigger shit like murder, rape and child molestation though, those are pretty objectively fucking bad. I don't know how anyone can sit there and say there's any subjectivity on that, and that those things can be acceptable within the context of "culture" or a different "societal opinion". Are you going to willingly submit to your own murder and suddenly feel good about having a knife thrust into your stomach, because the person doing it to you thinks it's morally right? Ugh no.
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie
"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie