RE: Rebellion against god
February 17, 2018 at 5:44 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2018 at 6:02 pm by Banned.)
(February 17, 2018 at 4:30 am)Cyberman Wrote: Etymology fail:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/good
https://www.etymonline.com/word/god
Cyberman - I took it for granted that the word good and god had the same root word, because I come from European/Celtic stock, and that's the way my ancestors used the word.
Modern versions of the etymology seem to have changed that idea. But I can accept that while on the forum.
(February 17, 2018 at 3:55 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Also, yes, I have seen the "If god were to actually appear and prove his existence, then people would be compelled to believe in him, thus eliminating free will" 'argument' several times on this very forum by other Christians. It's always a response to the question why god would rather have his creations exhibit faith rather than having knowledge. So, please don't act like it's some crazy idea I pulled out of my ass. If you have a problem with it, take it up with your contemporaries.
Well I certainly don't go along with the idea that a show would remove free will, and I can understand your rejection of it.
As to the question of God not showing up, I have never had to deal with it, because I had all the evidence right from childhood, without any help from adults, churches and the Bible. etc.
The world is God's creation.
So I really don't know what kind of science show would convince people, and I doubt that it would cause a deep love for God.
Beauty and healing doesn't change sinners, they hate God anyway, because they love sin.
(February 17, 2018 at 2:51 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Oh, so because the fable says god-boy was assassinated . . . your sky-daddy is pissing his pants and hiding and won't face humans ever again? Wow, the Romans must have been REALLY SCARY. This creature can create the entire universe, then supposedly send himself down to sacrifice himself to himself because of some rule he made himself, and it all scared the crap out of him so much that he's never showing up to prove his existence again, ever ever ever!!!!
No people were saved from Egyptian slavery, archaeological findings have established that. The Exodus was a fable. The "golden calf" was taken from the idols of nearby tribes.
"God revealing himself would achieve nothing for the majority of sinners." You're possibly right there. He would have A WHOLE LOT of questions to answer and a whole lot of apologies to make. And then he might not be worthy of worship.
"Who makes up this stuff?" Con-men witch-doctors snake-oil-salesmen have been convincing others that they could control the rain gods for thousands of years. It's a way to gain power over others and nothing more.
That's pretty much what the Jewish leaders said about Christ.