Question for Atheists

[DeistPaladin]

False, values can be calculated. They're all only really one thing. Desires, and they are brain states. which are quantifiable.

Interesting. Is anything subjective then, since it would seem that subjective matters are based on brain states?

You've been under a rock for the past 200 years it seems. Pleasure Utilitarianism was a step in the right direction, but his case for "pleasure" being the object of moral evaluation was flawed.

You'll have to pardon my ignorance in matters of formal philosophy, then. I'm mostly self-educated with only a business ethics class under my belt. Do tell if Bentham's ideas have been refined since.

I disagree, Divine attitude theory solves these problems.

How? If God is a being, than like any other being Its subjective evaluations would remain subjective by definition. Sure we may respect the wisdom and experience of some beings more than others, and some command more respect for their moral judgment than others, but subjective still remains subjective no matter the power, intelligence or experience of the being.

That to me sounds like "I don't like == wrong" where "I don't like" is your three arbitrary standards of evaluation.

Not so much arbitrary as analytical. I came by these rules by asking myself why something is wrong and found that my negative reactions are based on perceived violations of the three rules I mentioned.

You sure you aren't a nihilist in disguise?

That would be an interesting self-discovery. I'm not sure how nihilist - deist would work but perhaps I need to brush up on the term "nihilism". Remember, I am self-taught in this field.

Not so fast, the golden rule long predates Christianity.

Agreed.