(September 13, 2018 at 8:10 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(September 13, 2018 at 7:15 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Yes, so you are making a claim about reality, and saying that my beliefs don't match that. And I think that we can discuss those disagreements and the reasons behind them civilly. However it seems delusional to make claims, and then claim that you are not.
Edit: And you may note, that we live in the same reality. It is objective, and if you are making a claim about reality, then we can examine the reasons and evidence in regards to those claims. If you are still not making claims, then I'll just dismiss this as non-sense or unjustified speculation however.
Exactly what claim am I not making?
My claim is that we apparently don't live in the same reality, your's includes a god, mine does not. I am not required to accept your reality. What other reason/evidence do you have?
Great, you'll dismiss what you can't defend to my satisfaction. If you're going to go on and on about how god is real or that supernatural is part of reality, don't bother.
We live in the same reality. One apparently where you want to make claims, but delude yourself into one where you are not.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther