Nature comes first

[fredd bear]

For those that argue intelligent design using the phrases "For every painting there is a painter or for every building there is a builder", please remember that all of those raw materials were here first before we were.

Nature comes first before any designer.
And every designer is made of natural materials that were here longer before the designer stepped on the scene.

Just a little something to think about before you make arguments that don't hold water.

I think you're kind of ignoring the essential philosophical paradox there.

Where did the natural materials come from?  More nature?  Is it turtles, all the way down?  How?

@bennyboy:

 Your argument is also called "The 'watchmaker argument" . This an argument used by theists  to 'prove'e intelligent design . In another guise, it becomes 'irreducible complexity.'  It's simply incorrect.

The article linked below is too long to post here, but I recommend it to those with an open mind. I exclude apologists from that group.
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There is a HUGE amount of information online about this particular argument if you are unconvinced by the article.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-a-s...30878.html