(February 18, 2019 at 9:34 pm)Rahn127 Wrote:(February 18, 2019 at 1:34 pm)Lek Wrote: Where did nature come from? Your argument doesn't hold water either.
First we acknowledge that the universe exists.
From our observations of galaxies we see that most everything is moving away from us. There is also some expansion going on as well that contributes to this effect. The further away something is, the faster it is moving away from us.
As we turn back the hands of time, we see a universe where there are no galaxies, no stars, no matter, only energy.
You ask where nature comes from.
It comes from the existing energy of the universe.
The energy of the universe exists.
How would you get rid of it ?
Where would it go ?
That's some pretty unsatisfying rhetoric. I'm not one of those guys that tries to prove the existence of a deity. But you really do sound like you are trying to convince yourself. You're committing imagination assassination. It's OK to be perplexed by the origin of the universe. It's mandatory, actually. At least if you are interested in science. Don't make secular scripture out of it, dude. We're all looking at the same mystery. Some see a will at work in it. Others don't. Anyone who is unmystified is either faking it or a dullard.
We do not inherit the world from our parents. We borrow it from our children.