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Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread
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RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread
(September 14, 2019 at 6:18 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 14, 2019 at 5:57 am)Brian37 Wrote:  It is a myth that firearms are stolen from your home or from a shop as a majority that lead to a crime. The truth is most firearm violence starts with a LEGALLY  purchased firearm. It is possible to LEGALLY purchase a firearm then go on to commit a crime after that legal buy. And that is where most crime happens.

That doesn't appear to be the case.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...out-crime/

Quote:They found that in approximately 8 out of 10 cases, the perpetrator was not a lawful gun owner but rather in illegal possession of a gun that belonged to someone else.

Boru

Um this is misleading.  That "someone else" is also most likely to be a legal buyer. I wouldn't assume "got it from someone else" means stolen 100% of the time. "Got" can be a straw purchase which starts with a legal purchase, or it can be simply borrowing(most likely).  

In the home getting hold of someone else's gun in the family, would also be a matter of access, with or without permission. 

Secondly, I am talking about firearm violence, not just "crime", but actually pulling the trigger and hurting yourself and or someone you know.

Most firearm deaths are suicides. Second would be domestic violence. Third would be accidental in the home, most likely a kid getting a hold of it.

Crimes like armed robbery rarely end up in injury or death as long as the victim complies. And these types of crimes are do not constitute the majority of firearm deaths. 

Point its it is still an ease of access issue. I really hate the dodge of legal vs illegal.. And it still remains you are more likely to be injured or killed in the home by oneself or by someone you are familiar with.

Most firearm interactions are within those the person is familiar with.

EDIT..... QUOTE ARTICLE

"All guns start out as legal guns," Fabio said in an interview. But a "huge number of them" move into illegal hands. "

"All guns start out as legal guns"

Which still proves my point, access is always the key.

This means the person who legally bought it wasn't vetted well enough or responsible enough to keep them out of the wrong hands after the legal buy.  And "illegal" use after a legal buy doesn't always mean stolen from the legal buyer.

And there is this from the New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/gun-deaths.html
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Messages In This Thread
Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 13, 2019 at 7:25 pm
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by EgoDeath - September 14, 2019 at 4:14 am
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by Brian37 - September 14, 2019 at 5:57 am
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 14, 2019 at 6:18 am
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by Brian37 - September 14, 2019 at 6:33 am
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by EgoDeath - September 14, 2019 at 8:43 am
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by Brian37 - September 14, 2019 at 10:45 am
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by EgoDeath - September 14, 2019 at 5:14 pm
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by Brian37 - September 14, 2019 at 5:53 am
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 14, 2019 at 2:25 pm
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by Brian37 - September 14, 2019 at 3:23 pm
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 14, 2019 at 3:25 pm
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by LastPoet - September 14, 2019 at 5:54 am
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 14, 2019 at 5:58 am
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 14, 2019 at 6:31 am
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 14, 2019 at 4:40 pm
RE: Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 14, 2019 at 5:51 pm

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