Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: April 27, 2024, 4:20 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
#25
RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
We don't go anywhere ... we just change form. The mind-matter we are made of may eventually unite into a complex consciousness again in the vast future---just as all organisms came out of mind/matter---and there may be your conscious self once again, even if it takes billions or trillions of years into the future (or much, much, much longer than that), but 'you' will have no memory of it, you will not be human and is it really you? It would be you only in the same way that one of 'your' past lives would be you if there were many universes prior to the big bang, stretching back far further than 11 billion years, but the energy itself that everything is ... still remained. Just in another form---and 'you' already were some sort of strange alien lifeform in some pre-big bang state of existence. If we have future lives they are no more or less us than any past life that we would have no memory of and certainly wouldn't be human.

Then again, it may be such that the laws of the universe don't allow for any metaphysical possibility that your mind-matter will ever combine again into another complex consciousness .... there's still the mental buzzing arranged throughout your body but there may never again be a 'you' ... even one that would never ever have any memory or psychological continuity with you as a human now.

It just all depends on how the metaphysical laws of reality are set up (when I say 'metaphysical' read it as 'mental and physical'). It's certainly logically possible that you will become conscious after death but that doesn't mean that it's metaphysically possible. Something will always exist it will just change form. So the question is: are the laws of reality such that it is metaphysically possible for the matter that you are made to recombine into a sort of complex consciousness in the future? The answer to that may be yes or no. But if the answer is yes then I believe it will eventually happen given enough time because it is my belief that metaphysical possibility + infinity = metaphysical actuality.

In any case, it may not be metaphysically possible and even if it is you will certainly have no memory of it. So whether you would consider it to really be 'you' or not would depend on if you would consider past lives to be you even if you could never have any sort of memory or connection or knowledge of them.

To answer your second question: No, I am not afraid. Not even one tiny little bit. I neither have a desire for nor a fear of death. Epicurus put it best:

"Death, therefore, the most awful of evils, is nothing to us, seeing that, when we are, death is not come, and, when death is come, we are not."
"Zen … does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." - Alan Watts
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid? - by Porcupine - July 22, 2020 at 8:10 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Are some theists afraid of atheists? Der/die AtheistIn 146 48605 June 21, 2018 at 6:29 pm
Last Post: The Valkyrie
  Why people afraid to ask questions about their beliefs? Torin 21 4477 August 13, 2016 at 1:08 am
Last Post: robvalue
  Wish this nutjob would hurry up and die. Spooky 30 5965 August 11, 2015 at 12:38 am
Last Post: Iroscato
  Why are Atheists afraid to insult Islam and Jews? superAtheistnut 107 16449 April 22, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Last Post: Hatshepsut
  Ultimate purpose without religion... "If I Die on Mars" Mudhammam 0 971 February 12, 2015 at 11:35 pm
Last Post: Mudhammam
  Well what happens after we die? JohnNelson98 54 9198 August 16, 2014 at 7:28 am
Last Post: DeistPaladin
  You wake up in the hereafter after you die. Mudhammam 29 7315 May 25, 2014 at 12:36 pm
Last Post: Faith No More
  What Do You Believe Will Happen To You Once You Die? Revelation777 154 20234 May 10, 2014 at 3:54 pm
Last Post: Elskidor
  Christians Hope I Die Tomorrow LivingNumbers6.626 12 3852 April 29, 2014 at 8:12 pm
Last Post: MJ the Skeptical
  The internet: A place Religion comes to die Gooders1002 15 5945 April 3, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Last Post: Minimalist



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)