(September 17, 2020 at 2:27 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:you dont even know how deep the evil goes on your side.. that's the thing with infanticide... at somepoint someone in authority will stop lying to himself about what abortion is, and will ask what is the difference between late term and post term abortion...(September 17, 2020 at 11:03 am)Drich Wrote: See i knew you wanted to play!
in west virginia abortion can happen after birth. why would it need to focus on life beginning at conception when you monsters are killing babies after they leave the womb?
Normally, I look up counter-claims in a debate but I'm not going to bother and just go out on a limb and say that's bullshit.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/virginia...-own-state
https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-w...ld-proceed
“In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.” in short the baby is born, and left to die due to exposure to cold temps/neglect/starvation after birth.. but this bill is based on the government nor any man being able to tell a woman what she can do with her body.. which i guess in liberal speak viable/birthed baby. the fact people want this option and it was even consider show how sheer evil has taken the hearts of those on the far left. this should never even be considered let alone voted on and signed into law.
Quote:Interesting. So Yahweh believes in relative morality then?God does not believe in your idea of morality at all. morality is a standard based on the righteousness of men. or what the bible identifies as self righteousness. God's standard is that of righteousness. and true righteousness is different based on need and ability. which is why it was ok for some to do things others were forbidden to do. it is clear in scripture ie the parable of the talents and paul lesson about one body many parts speak about this in detail. basically, not all are held to the same standard. that is the primary give atonement provides. you didn't know this? maybe you oughta seek a more complete understanding before you judge others by what you mistake as god's standard.
Quote:That some values are right for one culture and wrong for another?indeed. perfect example is the order to that allows the followers of christ to eat what was once unclean food, or even meat offered to idols.. for those who can understand and accept that God has made a provision that would allow them to eat unclean food they can do so. how ever for those who can not accept this teaching it is still a sin because in their hearts they think it i sin. further more those who have the stronger faith should not tempt the weaker brother by eating what the weaker brother sees as forbidden meat.. because again for the weaker brother it is a sin. (do you need book chapter and verse?)
Quote:Don't Christians normally accuse atheists of harboring a belief in relative morality?because those who know... know, and those who don't are not in a position to teach this lesson yet.. Where you understanding of this religion fails is you think christianity is like judaism in that it is like all religions based on rules. the follows of rules pass the life test and move on to eternal reward while the others are punished. nothing is further from the truth. this was true for the jew and those who established the rc church and for the modern rc church but if you actually read the bible. bible based christianity is the exact opposite. no where in the nt are we given books of nt law.. do not confuse the church with the body of believer the bible describes. the church/religion is full of law. the bible contains two that sum up or completely represent all of ot law. these two law govern mature nt christians. these two laws basically teach love god the best you can and you fellow man the best that you can and the rest will be filled in by christ. most of your idiots are 1/2 way there. if you would only bend the knee to god we could be brothers as most of you have the second command already down. once you understand the new covenant/two new laws for christianity you begin to see sin differently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYJ5Io59gU&t=5s 10 mins and you will never look at sin heaven hell the same again.. it explains why good people goto hell. and how the exwicked get a pass to heaven..
Quote:You need to talk to your fellow Christians then and explain to them that they've got it all wrong.you are again being obtuse. in the nt via 1 cor 7 we have one man one woman marriage spelled out.
Quote:Evangelicals have been harping about "ONE man and ONE woman" as the definition of traditional, sanctified marriage.because as christians and not ot jews they are bound to one man one woman.
Now I will discuss the things you wrote me about. You asked if it is better for a man not to have any sexual relations at all. 2 But sexual sin is a danger, so each man should enjoy his own wife, and each woman should enjoy her own husband. 3 The husband should give his wife what she deserves as his wife. And the wife should give her husband what he deserves as her husband. 4 The wife does not have power over her own body. Her husband has the power over her body. And the husband does not have power over his own body. His wife has the power over his body. 5 Don’t refuse to give your bodies to each other. But you might both agree to stay away from sex for a while so that you can give your time to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not be able to tempt you in your weakness. 6 I say this only to give you permission to be separated for a time. It is not a rule.
Quote:More relative morality.again god is not bound by your rules of morality. what is ok for a man in situation a will be different for a man living in situation b. God is not an inflexible monster. he doesnt give us any more than what is possible for us to deal with...
Quote:Once again, who's fault was that? Yahweh is the one that created this world. If "one man and one woman" was so important to him, he could have created an environment where that was possible.which is why pre law/moses the rules were much much easier. and why now the law has made complete and even thoughts are judged.
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Is the OT part of the Bible or not? Did Yahweh, the same god, inspire the OT or not?
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bible means book of books or a collection of books. this collection is not a manual on how to worship the god contained in it. the bible catalogs the journey of the gospel/message of salvation and how righteousness needed to evolve into how salvation works today. for instance if you have a maintenance manual for 1964 to 1973 1 gen mustangs would anything from the 1964 section have anything to do with the 1973 mustang your working on? no but you can see the evolution of the car and maybe get an understanding of how/why they modified the car the way they did over that 9 year period. the same is true here. you understand of the bible and christianity is archaic at best. no wonder you hate god and seem to be hoplessly lost. all you need do to fix this is admit most of what you think is wrong and honestly seek out the truth.
