RE: The most stupid misconceptions about Islam
October 21, 2020 at 5:55 pm
(This post was last modified: October 21, 2020 at 6:07 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 21, 2020 at 5:50 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:Imagine that, a magic book that advocates for and strongly decries things, sometimes the same things.(October 21, 2020 at 5:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -and there it is. So what? So what if islam did in fact advocate for naive doctines and an unjust god?
It would be bad if it did, therefore it doesn't? If that's the case you're going with, have at it.
I thought I didn't need to spell out the obvious. But there you go, the Qur'an denies, verbatim, such naive doctrines :
Whoever chooses to be guided, it is only for their own good. And whoever chooses to stray, it is only to their own loss. No soul burdened with sin will bear the burden of another. And We would never punish [a people] until We have sent a messenger [to warn them] (17:15)
Notice the use of the word choose, together with the two sentences in bold.
Kindergarten Islam says that people choose, willingly, to stray, after hearing warnings from messengers, whoever they are.
Satisfied ?
Quote:What genocide are you talking about? Can you be a bit more specific and cite something people can refer to in the literature, instead of throwing empty charges?Yes, we know..we know. Your religion doesn't do or contain any terrible shit, and if it did, the jews deserved it.
I already said that the Banu Qurayza tribe commited a war crime. If their treason went unpunished, Muhammad's new-found state would have certainly been wiped out, entirely. Besides, the penalty applied was the one prescribed by the Jews' own holy book.
Quote:Being 'kafir' includes being presented with evidence of Muhammad's prophecy, then rejecting it unreasonably. I think you should review a book or two about the six pillars of belief in Islam.Now why on earth would I need that when I have you, noted islamic expert, here to explain how everyone gets it all wrong? By all means, continue stepping on rakes. Maybe you'll realize that it isn't people's stupid misconceptions that cause them to reject islam. It's believers like yourself describing their own beliefs.
If you wanted to change peoples minds about this, you would have to understand them, and their objections - not your own objections to whatever parts of islam you think are nuts. There, at least, we agree - but that doesn't help your case. If you tell us, for example, that teh jews warcrimed your carpet salesman, so he had to warcrime them right back - then we can only say "Yes, exactly...and we don't think that's the way to act anymore, because we aren't seventh century warlords." That's not clearing up a misconception, it's affirming the validity and asserting the truth of the objection. You don't feel that way, I presume.. .because that would be bad...but it is in point of fact what you've been doing all thread long.
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