RE: "How do I know God exists?" - the first step to atheism
February 19, 2012 at 12:44 pm
(This post was last modified: February 19, 2012 at 12:47 pm by Cosmic Ape.)
(February 19, 2012 at 8:01 am)Tiberius Wrote: Depending on your definition of knowledge, the adjective "proven" serves no purpose. Plato defined knowledge as true, justified. belief. Agnostics hold that there as subjective beings, there is no way to determine whether something is objectively true, and as such, all knowledge of this kind is inconclusive. The problem with saying "there still isn't any proven knowledge of it" is that you, as a subjective being, have no insight into the minds of others. What if they did have some kind of proven knowledge? You can't know if they do, since all you "know" is what is in
You're jumping around, do you or do you not think there is knowledge of a god? Seems pointless that you even quoted me in the first place, there's literally nothing we're arguing about.
(February 19, 2012 at 8:01 am)Tiberius Wrote: Do you understand the meaning of the word "general". Like I said before, if there isn't a specific God being mentioned, you should default to the non-specific concept of a God, i.e. some form of supernatural deity who created / controls the universe.
I didn't bring up the god-tale, it's not my job to do that, it's the claimers. This is ridiculous, you started quoting me for no reason, how could any Atheist have a problem with my original post if they dont disagree, seems you're being more anal about how I said it than anything I'm actually saying. Maybe I stated it wrongly in my analogy but I was talking about how theists tell us we deny god by using the "Not God" Answer instead of acknowledging that we dont believe it so we cant deny anything.