(February 14, 2012 at 2:26 am)MysticKnight Wrote: It's rather sad. I don't think Atheists are evil or less good people because of this. But they miss out on awesome knowledge that is the foundation of the soul's existence and have to life a life in fear of death, with little hope of everlasting life.
That's true. And ironically atheists never do give up on the hope of everlasting life really. There are many scientific documentaries that address the question of the survival of the human species. The most obvious question is whether humanity will ever evolved technologically enough to travel to distance planets, in order to avoid the inevitable destruction of our own solar system when our sun dies.
Most atheists believe that it's 'rational' to believe that since we have several billion years to evolve and advance before the sun dies we'll surely have grown in terms of technology far enough to meet the challenges of interstellar travel thus avoiding certain doom. So they are keeping the hope of eternal life open if only in terms of the human species in general.
And I also believe that many atheists have a secret hope that some form of reincarnation is actually possible so that they will be there to experience that future of humanity.
Some atheists are so disturbed by the thought of humanity ending that they even imagine that humanity will continue to evolve even beyond interstellar travel to potentially travel between imagined parallel universes thus escaping the certain doom of our very universe. Humans are quite tenacious when it comes to wanting to stay alive. And that certainly includes the atheists as well.
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When it comes to questions of "God", I prefer to not even think in terms of that word. That word has become highly contaminated by ideas of external personified anthropomorphic beings living in a totally separate spiritual world. I'm fairly well convinced that no such 'gods' exist.
I can also rule out certain myths as being utterly absurd. The Biblical God, for example, would not even be nearly as benevolent as myself. How could a supposedly divine all-benevolent God be less benevolent than me? That's makes absolutely no sense, thus those fables are necessarily false man-made superstitious myths (very poorly written ones to boot)
However, if you define "God" in terms of a spiritual essence to life which is the foundation of my very own existence, then it's quite easy to know God. All I need to do is recognize that I am this universe being aware of itself. And that is blatantly obvious. In fact, the only way that could not be true is if I was something other than the universe experiencing itself.
But wait a minute! If I'm something other than the universe experiencing itself that very concept would require that I be something other than this universe! In other words, that very idea would force an idea of an external 'soul' that does not belong to this universe.
When when it comes to this Eastern Mystical picture of "God", where the idea is "Tat t'vam asi" meaning "You are it". Then it becomes crystal clear that I not only know that God exists, but I am that very being.
Reincarnation then becomes obvious. For it can be no other way. The only way to avoid reincarnation would be to imagine I'm an 'external soul'. Something external to this universe. But like I say, that very idea requires a believe in some external soul itself.
So as far as I can see, not only can I know that "God" exists. But it's also impossible for me to be anything other than this God. I am this universe perceiving itself. There's simply nothing else to be. There are no other choices available. Unless of course a person want to get into imagining the existence of "souls" that are somehow totally separate from the universe.
So for me, it's pretty straight-forward open-and-shut case. I am necessarily this universe experiencing itself and there was never a time when I was not, nor will there ever be a time when I will cease to be.
So for me "God" is impossible to deny.
But clearly not if you're going to demand that some make-up character in ancient Hebrew fables represents "God". Those fables are very easy to deny as being representative of anything real. They are just poorly written fairy tales. So poorly written that they created an image of God that isn't even as benevolent as me. It seems to me that the only people who could believe in those tales are people who are far less benevolent than the God depicted in those tales. In other words, they would need to believe that being cruel and violent toward other people is a 'divine solution' to problems. They would need to believe that it's benevolent to support male-chauvinism against women, and hold religious bigotry toward non-believers of the tales, and to carry a judgmental hatred toward same-gender love, etc.
Believers would need to be all that and worse, in order to believe that the biblical God is more benevolent than themselves.
It's certainly not going to work for me.
So, yes, I have no choice but to believe in "God" in an Eastern Mystical sense, because it not only can't be denied, but no other explanation could even be made to work without invoking and external 'soul' anyway.
So the fact that I am this universe is pretty obvious to me. And reincarnation is an unavoidable and necessary result of that. I will always be this universe. There was never a time when I was not this universe, nor will there ever come a time when I will cease to be this universe.
I am primordial and eternal. I am the alpha and omega.
It can be no other way.
Christian - A moron who believes that an all-benevolent God can simultaneously be a hateful jealous male-chauvinistic pig.
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!