(March 16, 2012 at 7:15 am)tackattack Wrote: Let me break it down for all the above a little. Let's say I have an equation to which the solution is unsolvable ATT:
3+5+6+2+9+x+y+z=?
and most materialsts and atheists find it (and rightly so) more practical to eliminate variables that are also unknowable, thus:
3+5+6+2+9=?
Then they come up with just as unprovable a solution as we had with the variables, because not everything is yet accounted for.
x,y and z= might very well be 0 and I'd be in the same place you all are.
1-I postulate the at least x or y seems like soemthing real to me and I'm more stupid because of it?
2-Isn't removing a subset (or relationally removing any possibility of evidence that could change your equation) in an equation more limiting than allowing for their possiblity?
The problem, and the reason it limits intellectual capacity are self evident because religion asserts the answer and demands that x+y+z fits the answer.
For instance;
3+5+6+2+9=31
We realise that 31 is not the answer, so science has to look for x+y+z as the reason why 31 is the answer. We look for reasons for the observable.
So to use your example;
3+5+6+2+9+(GOD)=31
Science examines what x,y,z is, religion puts God in the gaps. If that isn't intellectually stunting investigation and knowledge, I don't know what is.
Personally, I want to know what x+y+z is, come up with a theory that x=1 y=2 and z=3, test it, and if its wrong, try a different hypothesis.
It is intellectually dishonest to claim x+y+z=GOD and then declare yourself the winner.
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm