(November 30, 2018 at 1:50 pm)Cherub786 Wrote:(November 30, 2018 at 1:42 pm)unfogged Wrote: "sufficient reason not to believe the universe was created ex nihilo"
is not the same as
"sufficient reason to believe the universe was not created ex nihilo"
Semantics. If you don't believe the universe was created ex nihilo then you believe it wasn't created ex nihilo.
Do you believe ice (snow) is created ex nihilo when the temperature is low enough ?
Where did this ice come from if it wasn't created ?
Our universe is much the same.
It wasn't created. The energy of the universe expanded and matter formed.
I realize this is a very simplistic model but I think it's useful.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result