RE: Arguments against existence of God.
July 10, 2012 at 9:20 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2012 at 9:21 pm by Welsh cake.)
Lack of a coherent meaningful definition and a clear positive ontology is the killer mystic.
(July 10, 2012 at 5:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I myself don't have an issue with other gods existing, gods are just beings that are to be honoured to the extent of worship. That's all they are.Which begs the question, why call them gods then and not just other forms of life?
Quote:However, logically, Ultimate Existence, cannot lack existence.Oh shit. The -Ultimate- Spider-man slap-on tag is back. Here we go again...
Quote:Well, creation then is a dependant existence, it borrows it's existence from God. Thus God lacks no life, the life of other beings is from him giving existence through his own existence. This doesn't mean God loses any existence.This is where I become apatheistic. If we're still here today, gone tomorrow why should we even care if there's a god? We're going straight back to oblivion mate and cannot afford to waste any time pondering the existence of beings that don't perish.
Quote:Can there be "lesser" gods...sure why not...why can't creation reach the level of divinity?Immortality? That's simply unrealistic within reality as we know it.
Quote:But the difference with God is that he is Value in itself, while everything else has to earn value.I'd rather tell that kind of god to fuck off if it exists.
Quote:So if there is gods, they would have struggle to reach that rank.And no doubt continue to suffer greatly just to maintain their godhood. Nah, screw that nonsense.
Quote:Perhaps us humans are on a journey towards divinity, perhaps, other creatures are also on that journey. But I don't think finite creation can ever reach the level of Ultimate, because that has no limit, while creation is finite and limited.Then why bother? If oblivion is liberation from this god and its crapsack reality why not just live out a finite existence and joyfully contemplate the simplicity and yet profoundness of eternal nothingness which is greater than any ultimate god?