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Federal Government Shutdown
RE: Federal Government Shutdown
(October 9, 2013 at 10:11 am)festive1 Wrote:
(October 9, 2013 at 7:53 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:


The flag means less to me than the ideals it represents. Being that America purports to hold those ideals, yet reality is something quite different, it's very hypocritical. In addition, the people who seem hellbent on holding the country back from becoming everything the symbol stands for, wrap themselves in a blanket of patriotism and, literally, the flag. It's sick how people use patriotism. It's dangerous. I'm not fussed about the flag, they can keep it. I just want the execution of the ideals, which are hard to find here, because they've been bought and sold. They are separate things, ideals and symbols. They are not interchangeable. One has far more actual value and weight than the other. We can make the flag a giant pile of poo on a white background... whatever, I'm good, so long as America actually IS what it pretends to be, which we're not. America is a big, stupid bully, both on the international stage and to it's own citizens. I'm sick of it, and frustrated there's not a whole hell of a lot I can do about it.
Quote:America is a big, stupid bully, both on the international stage and to it's own citizens. I'm sick of it,
In America you're still afforded the freedom to stay or leave. Nobody's twisting your arm and forcing you to live in this country. Why are you still here if you're that unhappy? Maybe China or some Islamic Arab country would be more to your liking.
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Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - September 30, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - September 30, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - September 30, 2013 at 10:38 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Foxaèr - September 30, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - September 30, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - September 30, 2013 at 11:44 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Creed of Heresy - October 6, 2013 at 9:47 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by A Theist - October 9, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Max_Kolbe - October 9, 2013 at 9:57 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - September 30, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - September 30, 2013 at 10:49 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Zazzy - September 30, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - September 30, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - September 30, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - September 30, 2013 at 11:04 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - September 30, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - September 30, 2013 at 11:05 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - September 30, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Dragonetti - September 30, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - September 30, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - September 30, 2013 at 11:25 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - September 30, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - September 30, 2013 at 11:29 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - September 30, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - September 30, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - September 30, 2013 at 11:49 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Lumpymunk - September 30, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 1, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - September 30, 2013 at 11:59 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Lumpymunk - October 1, 2013 at 12:17 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by bladevalant546 - October 1, 2013 at 2:06 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 1, 2013 at 3:21 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Whateverist - October 1, 2013 at 4:49 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by KichigaiNeko - October 1, 2013 at 5:36 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Whateverist - October 2, 2013 at 12:25 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Tonus - October 1, 2013 at 5:47 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by KichigaiNeko - October 1, 2013 at 6:01 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Tonus - October 1, 2013 at 6:11 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by KichigaiNeko - October 1, 2013 at 6:27 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Tonus - October 1, 2013 at 8:41 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by bennyboy - October 1, 2013 at 8:00 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 1, 2013 at 8:12 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Isun - October 1, 2013 at 8:41 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by _xenu_ - October 1, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Isun - October 1, 2013 at 8:45 am
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RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Doubting Thomas - October 1, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Violet - October 1, 2013 at 10:02 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 1, 2013 at 10:10 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 2, 2013 at 12:34 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Cato - October 2, 2013 at 1:20 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 3, 2013 at 11:26 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 2, 2013 at 1:36 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Lumpymunk - October 1, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Isun - October 1, 2013 at 8:49 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Autumnlicious - October 2, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Manowar - October 3, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Chas - October 3, 2013 at 4:57 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Isun - October 3, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by wolf39us - October 3, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Aractus - October 4, 2013 at 5:09 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 4, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Aractus - October 8, 2013 at 6:55 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 4, 2013 at 5:17 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 4, 2013 at 6:30 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Isun - October 4, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 4, 2013 at 9:29 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Isun - October 4, 2013 at 9:55 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Manowar - October 5, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 6, 2013 at 10:52 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Rev. Rye - October 6, 2013 at 10:55 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Nightfoot92 - October 6, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 6, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Manowar - October 6, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 6, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 6, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 6, 2013 at 7:49 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 6, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 6, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 6, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Autumnlicious - October 6, 2013 at 9:58 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 6, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 6, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by wolf39us - October 6, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 6, 2013 at 11:06 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 6, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 6, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 6, 2013 at 11:49 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 7, 2013 at 12:04 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Violet - October 7, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 7, 2013 at 12:52 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 6, 2013 at 11:57 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 7, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 12:26 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 7, 2013 at 12:11 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 7, 2013 at 12:13 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 7, 2013 at 12:14 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 7, 2013 at 12:20 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 7, 2013 at 12:33 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 12:35 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 7, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 2:08 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 7, 2013 at 1:04 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 7, 2013 at 1:36 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 7, 2013 at 1:46 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 7, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Violet - October 7, 2013 at 10:30 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Creed of Heresy - October 8, 2013 at 1:31 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Creed of Heresy - October 7, 2013 at 8:14 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by popeyespappy - October 7, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by _xenu_ - October 7, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 7, 2013 at 9:18 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Violet - October 7, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 8, 2013 at 12:33 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Violet - October 8, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 7, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by bennyboy - October 8, 2013 at 2:37 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 8, 2013 at 3:53 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 8, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Tonus - October 8, 2013 at 7:55 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 7, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 7, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 8, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Whateverist - October 8, 2013 at 2:21 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Creed of Heresy - October 8, 2013 at 3:44 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 8, 2013 at 3:51 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 8, 2013 at 4:11 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 8, 2013 at 4:17 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 8, 2013 at 4:20 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Violet - October 8, 2013 at 1:54 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 8, 2013 at 4:24 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 8, 2013 at 4:27 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 8, 2013 at 4:33 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 8, 2013 at 4:35 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 8, 2013 at 4:38 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 8, 2013 at 4:41 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 8, 2013 at 4:49 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 8, 2013 at 4:50 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 8, 2013 at 7:21 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 8, 2013 at 8:02 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Dragonetti - October 8, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Aractus - October 9, 2013 at 3:15 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 8, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Whateverist - October 8, 2013 at 10:23 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 8, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 8, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 8, 2013 at 10:55 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 8, 2013 at 10:57 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 8, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 8, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 8, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by downbeatplumb - October 8, 2013 at 2:37 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 8, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 8, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 8, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 9, 2013 at 7:53 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Chas - October 9, 2013 at 8:33 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 9, 2013 at 8:41 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 9, 2013 at 10:11 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Whateverist - October 9, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 9, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by sarcasticgeographer - October 9, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Rev. Rye - October 9, 2013 at 11:55 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 9, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by sarcasticgeographer - October 9, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Whateverist - October 9, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by A Theist - October 9, 2013 at 12:22 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 9, 2013 at 12:31 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 9, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 9, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by sarcasticgeographer - October 9, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 9, 2013 at 11:55 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by A Theist - October 9, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 9, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Cato - October 9, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 9, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 9, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 9, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 9, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 9, 2013 at 1:23 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 9, 2013 at 12:23 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 9, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 9, 2013 at 12:51 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 9, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 9, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by kılıç_mehmet - October 9, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 9, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Isun - October 9, 2013 at 11:23 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 10, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Rev. Rye - October 11, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Airyaman - October 11, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 11, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 13, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 13, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 13, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Raeven - October 13, 2013 at 8:49 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 13, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Minimalist - October 13, 2013 at 11:27 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 13, 2013 at 11:44 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 14, 2013 at 8:37 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 14, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Dragonetti - October 14, 2013 at 1:07 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Captain Colostomy - October 14, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 14, 2013 at 8:25 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 14, 2013 at 1:28 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 14, 2013 at 10:57 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 14, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Rev. Rye - October 14, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 14, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Rev. Rye - October 14, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Psykhronic - October 14, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 14, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by bladevalant546 - October 14, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by festive1 - October 14, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 14, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 14, 2013 at 5:35 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by DeistPaladin - October 14, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: Federal Government Shutdown - by Mystical - October 14, 2013 at 6:46 pm

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