(December 11, 2013 at 5:19 am)GodsRevolt Wrote: So, WITH God, suffering is evil.
What is it without God?
When there is an alleged deity that has the power to stop it, but doesn't.
Tsunamis are a perfect example. Either your god has the ability to prevent them, but doesn't. Which seems pretty evil to me.
Or he does not have the ability to stop them. Which makes him impotent.
Of he has a 'special plan', which is just apologists way of making excuses for his inaction.
Or he doesn't exist.
When there is not god, suffering is just an uncaring universe going about its business.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
