RE: Everything exists
January 2, 2010 at 7:06 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2010 at 7:13 pm by TruthWorthy.)
(January 2, 2010 at 7:12 am)Saerules Wrote:My point exactly. When theists state "god exists", they are meaning as more than an idea, they're staking a claim that "god" is amongst everything which exists and as an independent entity.Quote:OK, so God exists at the very least as an intangible thought?
Of course The question of "God's" existence is not a matter of 'does' he/she/it/whatever exist... it is a question of where, when, and in what form "God" exists.
The questions of why "God" is there, then, or that; how "God" is there, then, or that; if "God" were instead somewhere else, sometime else, or something else: can follow once the base of knowing where "God" is, when "God" is, and what "God" is has been established by all relevant parties.
My thoughts are that the proposition "god exists" is actually a contadiction, or a double assertion in that the need to say something exists in actuality, is an incorrect assertion.
What I mean: "god (exists is a given) exists".
I had thought this double assertion should cancel the two out but Adrian enlightened me that it still counts as an assertion in english.
I wonder about logic. Doesn't a proposition have to assert some type of relationship is occuring or the two are connected?
So shouldn't that relationship hinge on some type of interconnection, or interrelationship between the two?
I suppose the question is:
What relationship does "everything" share, with the quality of "existing"?
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