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Everything exists
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RE: Everything exists
(January 4, 2010 at 7:59 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (1) is also verified by causality

Not necessarily, quantum fluctuations and Radioactive decay, for example, have no observable cause, therefore saying that everything that exists has a cause for it's existence is an assumption in it's self. That is not to say that there is certainly no cause for these events but thus far there is no empirical evidence to support the notion that everything that exists has a cause for it's existence and thus the argument makes an assumption at it's very first premise, invalidating the argument in step 1.

Even if that premise were true you would be required to engage in special pleading to exclude God from the same rule you have used to show that the universe must have had a cause.

The whole argument is dead on arrival.
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Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 1, 2010 at 8:10 pm
RE: Everything exists - by Rhizomorph13 - January 1, 2010 at 9:17 pm
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 2, 2010 at 5:38 am
RE: Everything exists - by Violet - January 2, 2010 at 12:11 am
RE: Everything exists - by tackattack - January 2, 2010 at 6:43 am
RE: Everything exists - by Violet - January 2, 2010 at 7:12 am
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 2, 2010 at 7:06 pm
RE: Everything exists - by tackattack - January 2, 2010 at 7:18 am
RE: Everything exists - by Edwardo Piet - January 3, 2010 at 8:14 am
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 3, 2010 at 9:08 am
RE: Everything exists - by Edwardo Piet - January 3, 2010 at 11:36 am
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 3, 2010 at 6:01 pm
RE: Everything exists - by Rhizomorph13 - January 3, 2010 at 11:41 pm
RE: Everything exists - by Edwardo Piet - January 4, 2010 at 8:20 am
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 4, 2010 at 9:24 am
RE: Everything exists - by LukeMC - March 3, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RE: Everything exists - by ib.me.ub - January 3, 2010 at 11:10 pm
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 4, 2010 at 12:15 am
RE: Everything exists - by ib.me.ub - January 4, 2010 at 12:19 am
RE: Everything exists - by Rhizomorph13 - January 4, 2010 at 12:30 am
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 4, 2010 at 1:18 am
RE: Everything exists - by Rhizomorph13 - January 4, 2010 at 2:43 am
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 4, 2010 at 6:17 am
RE: Everything exists - by Rhizomorph13 - January 4, 2010 at 12:02 pm
RE: Everything exists - by Tiberius - January 4, 2010 at 9:32 am
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 4, 2010 at 7:27 pm
RE: Everything exists - by Tiberius - January 4, 2010 at 7:59 pm
RE: Everything exists - by theVOID - January 4, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RE: Everything exists - by Edwardo Piet - January 4, 2010 at 11:46 am
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 4, 2010 at 8:26 pm
RE: Everything exists - by Tiberius - January 4, 2010 at 8:36 pm
RE: Everything exists - by Kyrill - January 20, 2010 at 4:01 pm
RE: Everything exists - by TruthWorthy - January 20, 2010 at 6:48 pm
RE: Everything exists - by Violet - March 10, 2010 at 5:40 am

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