RE: should america support Israel?
August 6, 2014 at 6:07 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2014 at 6:15 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(August 6, 2014 at 5:52 pm)little_monkey Wrote: The Palestinians have no one else but themselves to blame for the misery they are encountering. As I earlier stated, war is ugly, and since the Palestinians are resolved to continue their armed struggle, then they need to accept the suffering that comes along instead of crying baby to the international community. Who are they really fooling, if not but themselves.
There's enough crying on both sides of the divide, to be honest. Propaganda is emanating from the Israelis at quite the hurry, too. Of course war is ugly. This is not news.
(August 6, 2014 at 5:52 pm)little_monkey Wrote: The killing should only stop when the Palestinians are ready to wave the white flag and surrender unconditionally. It would be lunacy for Israel to help the Palestinians when these people have not deflected one iota from their open and stated policy of destroying the state of Israel. Only after an unconditional surrender from every part of Palestinian society can there be talks of peace, reparation and cooperation. Any other recipe is doomed to failure.
I disagree. The killing should stop immediately based on both sides stopping shooting. The idea that the killing should only stop when the Palestinians surrender leaves them at the mercy of an Israeli state that treats them like shit.
Also, I see that you missed a key point in my statement when I said that if your "plan" of ending the war by killing a million or more Palestinians were to be successful, it would need aid to be applied after the victory. You clearly are thinking that I'm advocating aid while the conflict is still going on, as shown in the text you wrote and I emphasize. This discussion would have less misunderstanding if you'd read what I'm writing.
Finally, the insistence that peace can only come with a Palestinian surrender belies a clear pro-Israeli slant on your part, which is fine. But that position needs a little more reasonable support than what has thus far been presented. Israel has bloody hands and policies at work which fuel the hatred directed at it.
(August 6, 2014 at 5:52 pm)little_monkey Wrote: The generalization was mine as it was unmistakenly a logical conclusion from your post. But thanks for indicating that you had other stuff in mind.
It was not a logical conclusion from my post, as a closer reading will reveal.