RE: Why should Christians be moral?
December 3, 2014 at 1:47 am
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2014 at 1:53 am by Drich.)
(December 1, 2014 at 4:15 pm)dyresand Wrote:(December 1, 2014 at 4:08 pm)Drich Wrote: only if 'they' think God is a fool.
God is not bound by what some of us think to be escape clauses (Which is how things like the crusades and the inqusition were justified)
God/Christ on our judgement day will cut down all of our motives and intentions as well as our actions. In this way judgement is complete. What will God be looking for? where our truly heart lies. Did it revele in sin or did we hate the sin we are in? If we hated our sin and had to kill a guy then we will find attonement. If however it is as you say and we want to go around murdering people then God will find us guilty.
As Christ says in Mat 7 'Not everyone who calls out Lord Lord will he recognise.'
Dirch in reality you can follow the moralities of the bible and do terrible things the bible says. but in reality if you accept jesus you can just throw away morals and say the devil made me do it and still get into heaven if you repent before that time comes.
So again, "only if you think God a fool."
Meaning only if you do not Think God has the ability to know what true repentance is or is not able to discern when someone is going through the motions fro. Someone who has turned from sin.
(December 1, 2014 at 4:35 pm)dyresand Wrote:(December 1, 2014 at 4:20 pm)abaris Wrote: Of course, why should god not take some pride in his finest moments? Killing off the jews while marching through Europe on the first crusade. Then killing unbelievers all throughout Anatolia and last but not least, killing all the inhabitants of Jerusalem when sacking the city in 1099. Of course, besides of muslims, again jews and probably some christians on the side, since they got in the way of the holy warriors.
The inquisition speaks for itself with their heroes like Jakob Sprenger, author of the Malleus Maleficarum, whom even some high ranking church leaders considered insane. And let's not forget the happy heretics roastings in Spain, after they had finally destroyed a civilization that was their better in almost every aspects of life.
What a wonderful god! Where's the nearest church, so that I can give him his due?
Then again when god does something terrible people blame it on the devil to keep gods image shiny and clean.
Who gets to judge what is terrible? By what standard do we use? By what authority does this standard Apply to God? (How do we hold Him accountable to said standard?)
(December 1, 2014 at 4:38 pm)abaris Wrote:(December 1, 2014 at 4:35 pm)dyresand Wrote: Then again when god does something terrible people blame it on the devil to keep gods image shiny and clean.
So read this part again.
(December 1, 2014 at 4:08 pm)Drich Wrote: God is not bound by what some of us think to be escape clauses (Which is how things like the crusades and the inqusition were justified)
There's no Satan in the picture, only the god works in misterious ways bullshit to justify atrocities.
Where did I say anything about satan? What I said was man used these escape clauses to justify the acts of evil men.
Just because man uses or manipulates religion to gain a means to an end does not mean God or satan has played a role. It just means man can be evil and is willing to use anything as an excuse to obtain what he wants.
