(December 27, 2014 at 7:55 am)fr0d0 Wrote: You're restricting yourself Robbie. The scientific community has zero information on this subject. Look at the qualifiers. It's outside of the remit of science. You need to use logic.
Here is a proposed entity who is atemporal and supernatural. So what do you know? That he can't be temporal or natural.
This is how everything is worked out. It all follows and has to be consistent to work. Anything inconsistent fails the model and can be rejected. Hence how we can know about God.
I wonder if this is what L. Ron Hubbard concluded when he decided to create his own religion from scratch, and how tickled he must have been when it worked so well. Maybe Hubbard was a latter-day Paul?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould