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RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine
January 8, 2015 at 4:24 am (This post was last modified: January 8, 2015 at 4:25 am by robvalue.)
I watched the news last night (in England) and was impressed with the coverage. They displayed the cartoon in question for everyone to see, along with other ones the place did in the past. They did not try and suck up to islam and say this is nothing to do with it. They had a Muslim moderate speaking out against it, and explicitly saying that islam should be subject to criticism and should not have some sort of immunity of fear. Good for him, that was a brilliant speech he gave.

I have to wonder what these radicals are ultimately playing it. If their intention was to censor us, they have failed and have in fact drawn more attention to the very things they are trying to hide. Did they not realise that this would eventually happen given enough of this bullshit? They also seem to be trying to enrage as much of the rest of the globe against them. It seems like the only possible plan can be to goad everyone into action against them.

I very much like the change of label to "religious terrorist". The blame for supporting the ideas of faith needs to be burdened by anyone who claims it is a good thing. I'm not in any way saying moderates are just as much to blame, or that they are all the same. What I am saying is that they validate the idea that faith is a good thing, and the idea that these evil books should be taken seriously. That is inescapable. But I very much applaud any moderate who speaks out against the radicals, we need as many as possible to do this. The only action I'm suggesting is that moderates think about this.

The problem is not with the books themselves so much as the insane belief that these books are magic, automatically true beyond scrutiny, and good. It's this ridiculous attitude that needs to change, and I think as usual education is the key. If these books were viewed as the works of fiction they are, we wouldn't have a problem.

I agree that trying to outlaw religion sounds very appealing but is misguided in my opinion. The aim should be to educate, and to eventually reduce the power religion holds over society. It needs to be relegated to the point of "crackpot superstition".
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RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine - by Brian37 - January 7, 2015 at 9:19 am
RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine - by Alex K - January 7, 2015 at 9:56 am
RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine - by Ben Davis - January 7, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine - by Brian37 - January 7, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: 10 dead in Paris after attack on Magazine - by robvalue - January 7, 2015 at 10:05 am
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