(January 18, 2015 at 6:46 pm)bob96 Wrote: IF God exists, then it is possible that He created the energy from nothing. By definition, God can do this. It is outside the realm of science, and of our understanding. It is the realm of faith - believing without evidence.But I don't have to believe that "this energy did come from nothing." I can reject both of your "ifs" and simply admit that I don't know how the universe came to exist. Why would you think that if I reject the second concept, that I have no choice but to believe in the first? Especially when the first refers to basically the same thing: something I cannot detect in any way, for which I only have a definition made up by people who could also not detect it.
IF God does not exist, then this energy could not have come from nowhere. To believe that this energy did come from nothing requires faith - believing without evidence.
Why do theists do this? Why do they reduce god to "something" that is no different from "nothing" as if this is some kind of earth-shattering realization that will make an atheist drop to his knees in terror? How many ways can you come up with, to say "if you don't know, then it must be god"?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
