RE: How Muslims believed earth was spherical long before anybody mentions it.
March 11, 2015 at 11:03 am
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2015 at 11:22 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 11, 2015 at 4:47 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: I'm a guy who appreciates science, in my field of Computer Science, I refer to the people who taught me & discovered new things..-and yet this is exactly what the expanding muslim empire did. Again, credit for the actual labor goes to proxies...apparently they (the empire) wanted it stolen but didn't want to (or couldn't) do all the data entry themselves...
Not burn them alive then steal their work & re-produce it in my name & language.
(My money is on the latter. The works were undertaken, the proxies were compensated...so the desire existed...but why would a militarized state be good at translating documents - think about this practically. The empire did what it could, and outsourced what it couldn't yet still desired. In the grander scheme of their expansion they were a ruling minority who couldn't -help- but leverage both the labor and knowledge of others even if they tried not to. Business as usual and in no way a condemnation of their motives or achievements.)
Quote:Anyhow, saying earth is "a round coin" that has an end, with a hades under it (proof that nobody ever believed earth is spherical, Zues at the end of the world spraying thunder on his spoiled kids), excuse me but that is not science.Neither are the claims of the quran...so who's counting, and why?
Quote:Europe had no credit in this.. this was taught to a nomad, via god. Unless you want to convince me, that the nomad had all the knowledge of greek?Why would anyone waste time convincing you of such a plainly ridiculous thing? No god taught a nomad any such, don't be silly. Your "nomad" gets it right when the greeks get it right, wrong when the greeks get it wrong, and for the same reasons in either case. The explanation for this, has nothing to do with djinn................or any single nomad. If it took djinn, and had to do with some rando wandering the desert...it would really be inexplicable, but it doesn't, so it isn't.. and gets plenty of mention in history (that is apparently bullshit...if you say so).
I'm not sure what you want out of this discussion...do you want to ackowledge the muslim contributions to history that our historical narrative acknowledges...or call history bullshit for not acknowledging that narrative while calling it bullshit yourself? Is your gripe, more accurately, that history doesn't remember what you want it to/what you've been told, about islam and it's contributions? If that's the case, tough luck buddy. Or, do you positively require some djinn in this narrative. You just won't believe that the early umma did -precisely what it did- and that the only explanation for what you see is both "magic" and "the great satan"?
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