Quote:According to what? How do you know that? What evidence is there that god is the source for these things?
I have a few 1) my relationship with Him. 2) When I was too young to read He told me about Himself and everything He said to me is in the Bible 3) the fact that no one has ever observed coherent consciousness thought come from any non-consciousness thing.
Quote:Order can arise from disorder because the particles in the universe aren't just whizzing around randomly waiting to bounce into each other. They're attracted to each other by forces like electricity, magnetism, and gravity, and these forces draw particles of matter together until systems of varying complexity come into being. There is no evidence to suggest that a conscious being is needed to start or maintain anything of these processes, or anything else we've discovered in the universe, for that ma
What I have read form this statement is that there really isn't disorder in the universe. So how did this order come about in light of your world view?
Quote:In the objective sense, yes. Right and wrong are not created by absolute rules of the universe. Only reality seems to be created by the absolute rules of the universe, and the objective reality is that humans have evolved to be social, cooperative creatures to one degree or another, and the evidence suggests that the more we tend toward those traits and away from traits like violence and bigotry, the more successful, happy, and healthy we tend to be as a species. Morality arises both from the knowledge of suffering and the evolved human trait of empathy, which allows us to think about things from another being's perspective.
So you say the universe didn't create right and wrong only reality so by your statement there is no right and wrong because it isn't apart of reality. Does that also mean there isn't any logic, reason or knowledge? Or when did the universe in your world view create these.
How did these rules of the universe come about?
Quote:God is not morally pure. He is morally hypocritical. He demands one standard of behavior from his subjects while doing the exact opposite himself. Furthermore, he routinely commits and/or encourages genocide, rape, infanticide, murder...the list goes on. He makes exceptions to his own rules, he fucks with free will constantly, and he repeatedly acts with rage, jealousy, and vengeance toward the things he created, yet forbids us to do those things to each other (because vengeance "belongs" to him or some such bullshit...just the christian version of Karma).
You have already stated before that right and wrong are not apart of reality in your world view so you have no bases on which to make this statement. In your world view you are being arbitrary by judging God on what you claim is hypocrisy. As a mater of fact you can't judge anyone on anything because your judgment is just from you imagination because it is not a part of what you say is reality.
Your world view can't account for any right or wrong because you have suppressed the truth about God and his Holiness. Yet, since He is loving, He sent His son into the world to die for your sin so that you could be made whole and come into a relationship with Him. A true relationship with God is a life of transformation into the likeness of God where you will be purified. A life of peace and strength comes from God because, with accepting Christ as your lord and savior, you will receive the Holy spirit to help guide you into all truth. You will also have the power to over come your sins. I have seen it in my life and in the lives of others.
