RE: What is with refusing to admit slavery is wrong?
August 18, 2015 at 4:39 pm
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2015 at 4:41 pm by Redbeard The Pink.)
Ok, regardless of what you think, Drich, you're being way too loosey goosey with the definition of slavery here. Wage slavery, regardless of the conditions, isn't slavery in the classic sense of people not being able to live where they want, stop working when they want, or stop being beaten when they want. Modern "wage slavery" is its own separate problem and is not the kind of bondage slavery that we're talking about when we discuss biblical slavery (which is what the bondage slavery in the South was expressly based on). That kind of slavery is illegal in a lot more places than it used to be, and modern world economies don't depend on it on anywhere near the scale they used to.
alpha male, I've heard the whole "Kidnapping is wrong, so American slavery is non-biblical" argument, but there are a heaping fistful of problems with that. For one thing, it ignores the fact that America bought waaay more slaves than they kidnapped. It also ignores the fact that most biblical slaves were bought or won from other nations or were born into slavery, just like most of the African slaves possessed by Americans. The text also specifies that it's only wrong to kidnap men, so women and children could still be considered fair game, especially during the time period during which this was written; furthermore, considering the tone and content of the rest of the text, it's probably only talking about kidnapping non-slave, male, Hebrew citizens and enslaving/selling them, like what Joseph's brothers did when they sold him into slavery in Egypt.
alpha male, I've heard the whole "Kidnapping is wrong, so American slavery is non-biblical" argument, but there are a heaping fistful of problems with that. For one thing, it ignores the fact that America bought waaay more slaves than they kidnapped. It also ignores the fact that most biblical slaves were bought or won from other nations or were born into slavery, just like most of the African slaves possessed by Americans. The text also specifies that it's only wrong to kidnap men, so women and children could still be considered fair game, especially during the time period during which this was written; furthermore, considering the tone and content of the rest of the text, it's probably only talking about kidnapping non-slave, male, Hebrew citizens and enslaving/selling them, like what Joseph's brothers did when they sold him into slavery in Egypt.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com