What is with refusing to admit slavery is wrong?

[Drich]

[color=#cc3399]Ok, regardless of what you think, Drich, you're being way too loosey goosey with the definition of slavery here.

Not my definition I provided a link to the state department that defined the different types of slavery. Also know Even Chattle slaves worked for goods/even money. Just not a living/livable wage.

Wage slavery, regardless of the conditions, isn't slavery in the classic sense of people not being able to live where they want, stop working when they want, or stop being  beaten when they want. Modern "wage slavery" is its own separate problem and is not the kind of bondage slavery that we're talking about when we discuss biblical slavery (which is what the bondage slavery in the South was expressly based on). That kind of slavery is illegal in a lot more places than it used to be, and modern world economies don't depend on it on anywhere near the scale they used to

Actually what you have identified as a wage slave do not have any of those freedoms. Most of them enter a contract the forbades them to come and go as they please. Most make living arrangments for them and their families apart of their wage. which they are under contract to complete. once their terms are up they can move on if the owe no debt to their company. If not they are locked in until they pay it all back or become unproductive and the company gets rid of them. Wouldn't you know that most have to sell their souls to the company store just to survive. which means they will never pay back all they owe based on what they make.

This is what disturbs me so much pinky, is your attitude to want to brush off this very real and active type of slavery, just because a white man is not beating a black man in a cotton field somewhere in a southern state. You don't seem to consider any of this slavery just because their is a market/partial compensation offered to these modern slaves. Again what you don't seem to get is the same was offered to the chattle slaves of the south. The difference between chattle slaves and these modern slaves? Chattle slaves were bought at a steep price which made the owners far more aggressive defending their property. Modern slaves? there are so many desperate and poor, these people do not have to be bought. they WILLING sign up for their slave jobs. This is the SAME Type of Slavery that was in the bible. This is also why I see those who condemn slavery in the bible but say or know nothing of the slavery in modern times as such hypocrits.

Do you honestly think if a 1700's southern plantation owner did not have to pay thousands if not 10's of thousands of dollars per slave, that if their were 10 people lining up desperately wanting to be a slave for every slave they owned, they they would have been so aggressive and demanded so much work from the slaves they paid for?

I'm not defending those slave owners in any way I am just pointing out the only real difference between what you identify as slavery and what is going on now and was going on at the time of Christ and before. It boils down to supply and demand.

Again, this is why I can not say slavery is all bad (Yes there are very bad elements to slavery and their were pure hitler level people who enjoyed their work in the slave trade.) which is why we need to own up to our soceities need for slavery so we can stop the mistreatment of slaves and make sure that all slaves get a fair relitive to their cost of living deal. Because Slavery at it's core is a way for the very poor and unskilled to provide the rest of society what it needs to sustain not only itself but the economic base that provides for them.

In this way that God calls us to be slaves. We are all the extremely poor and unskilled. We all were purchased at a very high price, and yet in return the burden we are given is far lighter than the burden we would bare on our own. Yet the rewards we get can far exceed anything we could ever want for ourselves.