(September 8, 2015 at 2:17 am)Cephus Wrote:(September 7, 2015 at 9:13 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: "From an atheistic perspective" = "without a God-answer", as in "let's look at the data" versus "what does the Wholly Babble say?"
Except there are a lot of people who operate just as irrationally as the God-botherers, who react only through emotion and not at all through intellect, reason, rationality or critical thinking. Just because someone is an atheist doesn't make them rational in everything they do, unfortunately.
Well, yeah.
But are you seriously trying to argue that there's not a difference in mindset (perspective), regardless of the human pattern-seeking brain's tendency to wander away from it if we are not careful, between the atheistic and theistic worldviews?
We can start with simple things, like "they believe in magical causation for events and Revealed Truths™, which we do not accept as part of reality".
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
