RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 9, 2015 at 9:41 am
(September 8, 2015 at 5:28 pm)Irrational Wrote: Your experiences with God are true because you know God is true. But how do you know God is true? Because your experiences with God are true. If that's not circular, I don't know what is.Ah, no. I came into this knowing what the bible said, and even then I doubted a lot. Then I had a couple experiences including a few revelations/better understanding of the bible. I honored those revelations and experiences by changing how I thought about God and made small adjustments to my life to reflect what I had learn, I have repeated this pattern for the last 20 years. Two things happened. I am now a completely different person, and what I thought God was/suppoesed to be is not even close to what I have found in my life which is supported by Scripture.
The God of the bible is so vastly different from what most of us/you all think God should be, you all think I am joking or being a troll when I talk about Him. Find out that God is the oppsite of what you expect and honoring the God you find is not circular reasoning nor confirming a bias. it is the oppsite. It is seeking the truth and holding on to what is Good despite what you thought to be true.
Quote:Regarding your Obama example, I believe Obama is real because (for example) I see him on the news and have no good reason to assume he's fake. But I don't go around saying "Obama is my proof and, therefore, I experience Obama in my life".That is not the circumstance I provided. Do you see how you had to completely change the parameters of my hypothetical just to not concede my point? The paralells I drew between Obama and God still stand. Why? because even with man a person in power does not subject himself to the whims of the common person just to 'prove' himself to an indivisual. If the Indivisual wants personal 'proof' he must follow whatever procedure that is in place, and meet whatever qualifications set fourth by that VIP. My illustration did the same thing in a more relatable way. That is the point not what you actually believe.
So to say again if our VIPs have a procedure to qualify to meet them then why would one assume that God is waiting with baited breath to perform what ever magic trick or grant wishes for you to prove Himself to you?
