(October 1, 2015 at 7:33 pm)ronedee Wrote:(October 1, 2015 at 2:35 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: That may be the biggest load of horseshit ever dropped off on my rhetorical lawn. Wow.
The "chemicals" (why the quotes?) in our brains are known because we have tested and measured them, watched them functioning in fMRI studies at their known interaction sites in the brain, and are basically how the brain operates. I don't even know where to begin on the "love is exact" cowpatties. Your magic-based outlook appears to have warped your thinking processes.
I say "asshole" when you deliberately misrepresent atheism and atheists, even after you have been told by us how we actually are. It's a pretty basic definition of an asshole. If I went around saying that you Bible Idolators secretly read the Satanic Bible for your rituals, even after you told me that no such thing is even close, it would make me an asshole because it's not true, and I refused to listen to you tell me how it actually is.
"One message that unites" may be one of the most hilarious phrases I've ever seen you of you Bible Idolators use, since it's pretty clear that the thousands of Christian sects, none of which agree with one another, have very different ideas of what that "unifying message" actually is, and you've proved quite willing to kill one another over that in the past. Ask an Albigensian Christian.... oh wait, you can't. They were murdered by their fellow Christians for heresy. That's not even counting the fact that there are three entirely-separate religions based on Abraham, who kill one another almost endlessly.
I won't even bother to address the asinine claim that one cannot be moral in an atheistic society. I'll just leave you with a summary:
"chemicals" were your words, not mine. And while we are talking about "rhetorical".... your faux intelligent defense/offense and delivery are perfect! Unless you know something that the entire scientific community does not, brain function is one of the least understood mysteries of life! Try your bullshit on a fundi.
My views of atheism are spot on. They are a bunch of fowl mouth jerks. A bubbling cauldron of hate and inequity, lacking in any sort of peace and kindness.
You can vomit out all the lies men say and write and act on, in every subject on either side of religion over the millennia. But, the "one message" is clear and true. Love. That is where God is found. In Life & in Love. His true followers know this. But yours is a culture of hate & death. You strain over maybe 20,000 killed by Christians in the dark ages no less. Yet 900,000 abortions have taken place this year in the USA alone. Never mind the 50 million since 1973. Where's your outrage there? There isn't.... because that's "ok"! Its your choice, and new morality! Freedom has taken on a whole new meaning: Its what ever "I want to do".
No, you don't have God. Most people don't....religious or not. Because they don't know where to look. Or even care to look. They know better.
Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Yep, just as I said, emphasized above... Asshole.
As for the rest of what you just asserted...
Seriously, dude. Get a grip.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.