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There is no God, and I am certain of this.
37.68%
26 37.68%
I firmly believe there is no God, but there is a teeny tiny possibility I could be wrong.
21.74%
15 21.74%
I believe there is no God, but there is a possibility I could be wrong.
14.49%
10 14.49%
I really don't know if there is a God or not, but since I have not yet seen any evidence, I live my life as though there isn't.
26.09%
18 26.09%
I have no idea one way or the other, and am always weighing both possibilities in my head.
0%
0 0%
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Where do you stand on the existence of God?
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God?
(November 25, 2015 at 3:59 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

Quote:Let's try out cancer, then. It's not a nice, clean death. You waste away, in pain, sores suppurating on your skin, literally shitting yourself at the end of it and actually wishing to be dead.

Who chooses cancer?

Who invented cancer? Was he conscious?

The real problem of evil is not asking how evil can exist if your god is good.  The real problem of evil is how anyone who invented leukemia or Alzheimer's can be regarded as "good".

You believe that evil acts committed by conscious people are evil.

If your god inflicted my son's mother with breast cancer -- something she certainly didn't choose from her own free will -- how can you say that that act is good?

To forestall an ugly conversation, please don't appeal to "he was using the disease to teach her something". Firstly, she learnt very little from it; and secondly, shouldn't an omnipotent god be better able to find a way to teach someone something than to, you know, give them a fucking fatal disease?

Your god invented cancer. The Problem of Evil is not that it exists in the world -- that's very explainable -- the Problem of Evil is that it exists in the god you Christians claim is the Perfectly Good Creator.

A Perfect Carpenter doesn't build a crooked cabinet.

Your comments are a weak argument.  There's been a lot of nasty diseases man has eliminated or learned how to control.  Remember polio and smallpox?  One day man may very well learn how to eliminate cancer.  He already knows how to control it although the control mechanism isn't perfect.  If you were properly motivated you could discover how to eliminate it or some other disease.  Instead you want some invisible magic being to make everything good for you.  

Look at the bright side.  The omnipotent god character didn't give you a disease that turns your bones into powder overnight.  So that's a good thing, right?

For whatever reason or how it happened, man is supposed to be an intelligent creature who has the wherewithal to solve most of his problems if he will get off of his ass and work on them.  So when you have a problem do something that will solve it instead of just complain about it.  When you get hungry you are supposed to be smart enough to eat.  Don't complain because your body has the capability to experience hunger.    
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Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Catholic_Lady - November 24, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by vorlon13 - November 24, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Pizza - November 24, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Longhorn - November 27, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Foxaèr - November 24, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by dyresand - November 24, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 25, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by GUBU - December 1, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Foxaèr - December 1, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by GUBU - December 3, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Chas - December 2, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by robvalue - November 24, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Chad32 - November 24, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Chad32 - November 24, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Minimalist - November 24, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Angrboda - November 24, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by z7z - November 24, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Esquilax - November 24, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Cecelia - November 24, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by GUBU - December 1, 2015 at 6:28 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Pizza - November 24, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by robvalue - November 24, 2015 at 6:08 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by brewer - November 24, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Dystopia - November 24, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by robvalue - November 25, 2015 at 12:58 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Foxaèr - November 25, 2015 at 12:59 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by c172 - November 25, 2015 at 1:48 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Kingpin - November 25, 2015 at 10:56 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by IATIA - November 25, 2015 at 2:57 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by robvalue - November 25, 2015 at 3:16 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by robvalue - November 25, 2015 at 3:40 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Longhorn - November 25, 2015 at 5:17 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by GUBU - December 3, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Cyberman - November 25, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Kingpin - November 25, 2015 at 12:28 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Kingpin - November 25, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by IATIA - November 25, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Regina - November 25, 2015 at 5:05 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Regina - November 25, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Longhorn - November 25, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Regina - November 25, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Athene - November 25, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Longhorn - November 25, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by robvalue - November 26, 2015 at 6:13 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by robvalue - November 26, 2015 at 6:34 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by robvalue - November 27, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Spooky - November 27, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Ravenshire - November 28, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by robvalue - November 28, 2015 at 11:08 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Natachan - November 29, 2015 at 4:46 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Natachan - November 29, 2015 at 5:09 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Mermaid - November 29, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Natachan - November 29, 2015 at 5:26 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by GUBU - November 29, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Foxaèr - December 1, 2015 at 7:09 pm
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RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Foxaèr - December 1, 2015 at 7:33 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Foxaèr - December 1, 2015 at 7:41 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Cyberman - December 3, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by GUBU - December 4, 2015 at 3:39 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Kingpin - December 3, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Kingpin - December 3, 2015 at 5:07 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Qwest - December 4, 2015 at 12:50 am
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Reflex - December 14, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Reflex - December 15, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Cyberman - December 15, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God? - by Reflex - December 15, 2015 at 5:13 pm

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