(September 15, 2016 at 8:39 am)Mudhammam Wrote:(September 15, 2016 at 12:17 am)Arkilogue Wrote: You're barking up the wrong tree.
Jesus allegedly preformed many miracles/healings witnessed by many at the time, several times. A crowd of 5000 according the the loaves and fishes story.
It was a demonstration of power to the people who needed it.(September 15, 2016 at 7:21 am)Arkilogue Wrote: What I've posted refutes the claim. Jesus preformed works and did not ask for blind belief.That's the story. You seem to be confusing the claim and that which preceded the claim. Yet it has always been the case, that since the Gospels were written, you are simply expected to believe what they say on the authority of authorship. Hence, the characters are often made to stress the necessity of belief, and the more simple-minded gullibility is endlessly praised as piety.
To believe that Jesus did anything, even from the perspective of a person in the first-century, is to accept a claim on blind faith, for there has never been anything else but the testimony of some obscure charlatans writing or preaching decades after the alleged facts.
I don't "believe" in the bible nor do I need to. I have found what I've needed and moved well beyond it.
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Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder