Will the Islamists kill Islam?

[The Grand Nudger]

The means of control have -also- become more sophisticated in that time.  We say, "the internet the internet the internet"...but the thing about mass comms is that they -also- allow the imams to present their message. "The internet" is where all of these apologist assholes that we get on the boards come from...before that, they just had their silly fucking bibles.

Besides, we incorrectly assume that because atheism "rose" after mass comms. that one has somthing to do with the other. Post hoc ergo propter hoc. I say we're wrong. There have always been non-believers and people who fell away from the faith (and it wouldn;t surprise me in the least to find that the relative numbers of those people has always been about what it is). We say nothing today, in regards to atheism or religion, that a school of hindu thought hadn't proclaimed thousands of years ago. The muslim world is already full of kafir, and it always has been. Those guys aren't in charge, so long as the imams are..they never will be.

What ended the stranglehold of religion in europe wasn't something so lofty as the printed word. It was the religious authorities attempts to slaughter each other until they were all so collectively weakened that they no longer possessed the power to oppress. As it turned out, the rank and file wasn't as committed as they were to whatever it was those authorities thought was so important, surprise surprise. In the absence of their control, they did what they would have done...in the absence of that control.

Now, there are reams and reams of ideas as to why a people who don't actually believe what their authorities believe would go along with it anyway, and it might be something as simple as a preference for the devil you know. Sure, maybe if you were in charge, things would be diffeent, but do you want to be in charge, do you think that you could reforge the world anew to it;s betterment? It sounds depressing, but it's an effective risk aversion strategy, and that sort of thing is awfully compelling to the hopped up chimps we are. So maybe, for example, you don't hate isreal, but going along will help you get along. Maybe, you don't hate jews...but somebody has to operate those ovens..and if it isn't you..you might end up -in- the ovens.

In my views, those sunni and shia blasting the shit out of each other probably -is- the most effective way to break the stranglehold of religion in the general..but it won't be because the people themselves finally get fed up with it, they're just won't be enough oppressors left to oppress. One day, they'll end up like the christians we have today. Relatively civil, but still glorifying their crusaders and a bygone glory day as though it were anything other than a river of blood. A religion full of people who say and believe terrible shit...again, like our relatively civil chrstans..but know better than to act on it, because hey, look at what happened to those other guys that did.