RE: Dear Atheists
November 11, 2016 at 12:33 pm
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2016 at 12:41 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 10, 2016 at 6:26 pm)ParagonLost Wrote: Hi Rhythm, sorry for ignoring you in this thread.No worries bud, no worries, we all choose what we do and don;t respond to. I wouldn;t feel slighted or ignored in theleast if you didn;t respond - though I apprecate that you havbe.
Quote:Rhythm, believe it nor not, and this is without the supernatural or prophecy, but i think Jesus knew he was going to die.Right, but I know that I'm going to die as well......I'm angling for something more than that.
Quote:I believe he was a sacrifice. Now this isn't to be confused with substitution. I don't think that sacrifice in the old testament meant that you had to take a animal and hurt it unbearably so that your sins could be forgiven.If you don't believe in substitution you don't believe in christ, regardless of whether or not you believe in jesus. The term for the faith is christian, not jesusian. It's a title, not a name. It refers to his substitution and the subsequent vicarious redemption offered through it/him. This is one of the very few things christian sects agree upon, it defines them as such. Note that I'm not asking you to defend your view that jesus was a sacrificial offering, not looking to argue the truth of that matter - only expressing my confusion as to in what way you perceive yourself to be a christian if you do not subscribe to the central tenet of the faith, a faith very literally named after that tenet?
Quote:There is death crucifixion (being crucified after your death) and being crucified while being alive or just being impaled. Jesus took the worst possible route, which in my opinion he committed the worst possible treason.That's an interesting way to look at things.
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