RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
December 1, 2016 at 2:47 pm
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2016 at 2:48 pm by FatAndFaithless.)
(December 1, 2016 at 2:36 pm)Napoléon Wrote:(December 1, 2016 at 2:27 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Swampy in the sense that his cabinet and administration will still be run by career politicians and corporate influences. He's made it dreadfully clear that his knowledge of policy and intent to learn isn't exactly stellar - so he's getting 'the best' people to do that for him.
Okay well let's look at if he'd of played it differently.
What would honestly happen? His cabinet and administration will always include career politicians. If he just started appointing random business people or think-tank aficionados he'd be crucified for it.
What he's made clear is that he's willing to take advice and listen to the people who are more than likely better placed than himself, and then make a decision based on their input. What would you rather? That he just hamfists every decision?
Why is it when Trump comes out with this, it's seen as Trump 'not having any intent to learn', when if it was anyone else it would be seen as a great thing?
Isn't listening to others a positive? Isn't getting input on major decisions from bright minds something that should be commended? In one breath people are worried he will become an Adolf Hitler dictator, in another you criticise him for doing the exact opposite and saying he will get aid in making decisions rather than making them alone?
Surely you can see the bias here?
Quote:He himself isn't stuck in the same mold of political cronyism and corruption as Clinton simply due to the fact that he hasn't yet had a chance to be. And you're right, Trump might not be beholden to special interest groups, but the people he's choosing to run the country for him sure as hell are. I'm not talking about Trump as an individual, I'm talking about his cabinet and administration as a whole.
Absolutely and I don't doubt it, but from the Top you have a guy who isn't beholden to special interests. I mean, he isn't backing down from his anti-lobbyist promise is he? If anything he's gone full steam ahead and outlined EXACTLY what he's going to do. Yet even that is still not enough.
I see a lot of criticism for Trump supporters that 'nothing you say will sway them'. Seems to me the opposite is as true with those on the anti-Trump train. Anything remotely positive is blocked out like it isn't happening.
You're right - I would much prefer someone who is willing to learn from those more qualified than him. I'd much prefer he appoint experienced politicians to the cabinet (like he's doing). I'd prefer he learn from others. What I'm pointing at is none of that has anything to do with 'shaking up the system' or 'draining the swamp.' Can Trump somewhere down the line put forward an initiative that can make significant change to the system? I hope so, sure.
I suppose I'm speaking more to what his campaign has promised, and certainly what his supporters have repeated over and over. There is no grand 'shake up' of the system happening (yet, at least), and he hasn't stuck it to the career swampers or 'told it how it is' on a world stage. It's like his campaign didn't realize that it takes years to affect any change of significance in federal government. Or, they already knew that and promised dramatic change anyway. But when will this shake up happen? After he learns what he needs to know, is he going to then stick it to the system? I'm just trying to reconcile what he harped on over and over during his campaign and what his supporters said were the reasons they voted for him, and what he's doing now.
Like I said, I really, desperately hopes he impresses me. I just don't see it yet.
And for the record, his lobbying ban doesn't do nearly as much as some people think it does, but it is a good start. If it materializes into something more forceful, I'd happily chalk that up in the "Impressive" column for Trump.
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