(February 27, 2017 at 8:15 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: It's pointless providing evidence that you've already seen and don't consider evidence. If you think Trump has integrity and doesn't have a corrupt agenda and isn't a lying motherfucker it's not as if you haven't already seen and heard everything you need to see and hear to realize that he is in fact a corrupt lying motherfucker with an agenda and no integrity. And you're already on block.
I think the issue with corruptness is pretty... vague. And bias (how much you like or dislike him / trust or distrust him) has a very strong influence.
If you mean strictly of "obeying the laws", then one could say that he's innocent until the justice system proves otherwise.
If you mean "morally", that's still very vague and depends on what you consider to be moral. And it's subjective.
Also, politicians and the media sometimes (or, in some countries) tend to toss so many accusations at the others that, if you were to believe them all, then everyone on this earth is completely corrupted and rotten. And you have to choose one of them as your representative.
It might be interesting to start a thread on "corruption", though.