(December 14, 2016 at 8:58 am)operator Wrote:(December 13, 2016 at 11:33 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Even in my era, grade school learnin' was summarized as the 3 'Rs', readin', ritin', and rithmetic.This is assuming that Jesus was even a real person.
Reading and writing, while taught at the same time to our children, are separate skills, and 'back in the day' being able to read was absolutely no guaranty that someone had the ability to write.
In Jesus time, men who could write (who would waste time teaching a girl to write?) made big bucks from their skills. Then as now, contracts and business needs were pressing, and being able to write stuff down was a prized ability.
BTW, Jesus probably wasn't a carpenter, the actual words translated to 'carpenter' from the old writings don't really mean 'carpenter'. The probable true occupation of Jesus was most likely just being someone who worked with his hands. Like moving stuff around, or a helper to someone with some actual skills, like plumbing, stone work, or even carpentry.
IIRC, the carpenter thing regarding Jesus is more likely a theological assertion being a parallel between working with wood as he worked with people. Also, there is the obvious tie between carpentry and being crucified on a wooden cross.
So Jesus couldn't write, and he probably wasn't a carpenter.
I suppose if one were to sincerely believe incorrectly either of those false assertions, it could be concluded that individual was not in fact worshipping or believing in The One True Jesus, and was or will be damned to eternal torment upon their death . . .
Indeed, from our perspective,
-however-
for tuning a reply to a Christer audience, we can throw them a 'bone' so to speak, and let Jesus stand, and note it doesn't help their endless and eternal (and fruitless) quest for proof of their faith either a jot or a tittle because of all the other cock ups, screw ups, folderol, contradictions, errors, and tomfoolery inerrantly recorded in their own Holy Book.
(it's more fun winning this way)
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.