(December 15, 2016 at 8:33 am)Drich Wrote: akouō in this context means to consider or understand what is being said.In every way that the word is defined in your link, "to understand" is the least common usage of it, well behind the many ways in which it means "to hear." Which is why the passage says that they left when they heard what Jesus said, not when they read what he wrote or comprehended what he wrote. There is nothing that would imply that they read his scribblings and were moved by them.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lex...G191&t=KJV
Quote:So it can indeed be said what Christ wrote in the dirt, silenced the pharisees.Only if you use the least-likely and least-sensible interpretation.
Quote:If again that what He wanted Or if again that is not what He had done.You were talking about the issues Jesus would have in writing a book himself-- lack of time, lack of materials, lack of authority. I pointed out that none of these would have stopped him from doing just that.
Quote:Again I was simply educating you all who do not seem to understand what it would take to preserve anything from then till now.And I'm pointing out that if we're talking about God, preserving writings would be trivial for him.
Quote:You are right in that God could have persevered anything He wished. The question is what if He did not wish it?No, that wasn't the question. The question was if it was beyond his capability to do it. But since you're asking, the answer to your question is that if God did not wish to preserve the most important writings in history, then you end up with a situation that looks suspiciously the same as it would if there was no god.
Quote:So then if even you say it is possible for God to do this, lets look at how the last time he did this turned out. Meaning the last time He wrote down the laws defining a religion.. That would be with moses, now fast forward about 2000 years to Christ. According to Christ how did the holiest of the holy practitioners do? Did Jesus give them a 'well done my good and faithful servants' or did he blast them every chance He got???You do understand that his failures make him seem less like a God, right?
Quote:Now ask yourself Why would God set up another religion the same way He did the last one, just for it to fail on the highest levels?Because he's not God.
Quote:Especially when there is another way a far better way Where God no longer need Priests or prophets to speak to us?Such as showing up? Also, wouldn't God have figured out the best way of doing things the first time around? He seems to fail a lot for someone who is perfect and all-knowing.
Quote:It would if we never heard of him as with the 100s if not 1000s of other messiahs who came and went before durning and since that time.Why? If there was only a need to select one, then that's what happened. And since we're talking about books written decades after he died, it's very likely that we have not really "heard of him." We know only the myth that was constructed around a man who may have lived in the middle east at one time. There's no reason it could not be a composite, either.
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