Let's assume the whole 'Jesus Story' was made up.
Easy 'nuff.
I have no problem with interpreting the transfiguration as a display of the coming Kingdom and its glory.
But..... it.... never.....got here. His robes get bright, a cloud looms overhead and a disembodied voice bellows "This is Jesus, he is my son. You'd better listen to what he says!" And...... that's it. Doesn't quite demonstrate the coming Kingdom of God in all it's glory to me.
...careful analysis of the NT shows that many things had to occur BEFORE the Kingdom of God becomes a reality ie a physical government with Jesus as the ruler.
Eggzactly! And Jesus said to the dudes standing there before him that some of them will not taste death before they see this happening.
But you are entitled to your interpretation, as I am mine. I see no liar.
Yes ma'am. However I do try not to 'interpret' anything. I read the bible at face value. Literally. If it says God hangs out in the Kingdom of God and the faithful goes there when they die, and the place has gold streets and they refer it this place as heaven in other passages and they say the Kingdom of God (heaven) is coming to earth and you will not die until you see it happening then THAT is exactly what it means.
I do this because it is too easy to 'make up' ways around problems using "interpretation". For example if you or another said that when Jesus said '...you shall not taste death...' he really meant spiritual death not physical and it would be just as 'valid' as the one you're offering up now.
Literally, Jesus lied.
Easy 'nuff.
I have no problem with interpreting the transfiguration as a display of the coming Kingdom and its glory.
But..... it.... never.....got here. His robes get bright, a cloud looms overhead and a disembodied voice bellows "This is Jesus, he is my son. You'd better listen to what he says!" And...... that's it. Doesn't quite demonstrate the coming Kingdom of God in all it's glory to me.
...careful analysis of the NT shows that many things had to occur BEFORE the Kingdom of God becomes a reality ie a physical government with Jesus as the ruler.
Eggzactly! And Jesus said to the dudes standing there before him that some of them will not taste death before they see this happening.
But you are entitled to your interpretation, as I am mine. I see no liar.
Yes ma'am. However I do try not to 'interpret' anything. I read the bible at face value. Literally. If it says God hangs out in the Kingdom of God and the faithful goes there when they die, and the place has gold streets and they refer it this place as heaven in other passages and they say the Kingdom of God (heaven) is coming to earth and you will not die until you see it happening then THAT is exactly what it means.
I do this because it is too easy to 'make up' ways around problems using "interpretation". For example if you or another said that when Jesus said '...you shall not taste death...' he really meant spiritual death not physical and it would be just as 'valid' as the one you're offering up now.
Literally, Jesus lied.
I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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...the least christian thing a person can do is to become a christian. ~Chuck
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NO MA'AM
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...the least christian thing a person can do is to become a christian. ~Chuck
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NO MA'AM