(January 1, 2009 at 2:55 pm)CoxRox Wrote: I'm sure no one would disagree with you but how does that tie in with hoping there is a God etc? If there isn't, then when I die it won't matter that I 'hoped' there was. I aint gonna know.Because I think the question is: Why do you hope if hoping doesn't make it true? And if you believe it - why do you need to hope? Do you believe hoping it is true has an effect on its truth like some soft of truth invoking mantra or affirmation or something?
Or are you just switching back and forth from belief and hope perhaps? If so: Why do you hope when you don't believe when the hoping has no effect on the truth of the matter? And what makes you believe when you DO belief?
Why hope something is true if hoping doesn't make it any more true? At moments you believe at moments you don't.
So is it that when you don't believe you hope you believe because you really want it to be true?
The thing is - like I said - hoping it is true doesn't have any effect on its truth.
Well I of course don't KNOW that absolutely. But what evidence, what reason, is there to believe that hope can alter the truth of the existence of the supernatural?
I also don't know absolutely that the FSM doesn't exist! And if I really really desperately wanted (to the extent that it felt like an absolute need) the FSM to exist would hoping it existed make it more likely (or less likely) that it existed? I don't see how it would!
Thoughts?
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