Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!

[CoxRox]

CR's reply to me has cleared some murky waters in her thinking. That's not nice[b] I see how you are fitting things together now to reach your conclusion.

However even so, the words are plain and clear "there are some that stand here who shall not taste death until they see it coming. It is clear Jesus was being asked when this KoG would get here. All of them tasted death and no KoG.

[b]I've been thinking about the 'not taste death' thing, and it occurred to me that quite a few of the disciples died early deaths e.g Peter was crucified, so Jesus was reassuring them that they would experience the kingdom (not the full 'kingdom') before they died. I have been reading different articles about the transfiguration and I am clear in my mind that this is what Jesus was alluding to, either that or he was mistaken about the whole thing.

Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems when this was first brought up about Jesus's statement in Luke being untrue the reaction from the believing crowd, and I think you, was Jesus was refering to the transfig. Now it seems that what you are saying is the transfig. served a different purpose and it really was refering to the resurrection?

The transfiguration seems to serve many purposes, 1) Jesus reveals the glory and power that He gave up to become a man, the power that he will have when he is King in his kingdom, 2) Dead dudes are with him, thus showing the resurrection is a reality 3) God speaks from heaven and confirms that Jesus 'is' His Son . I've not put them in order of importance. There may be more purposes that I've missed. The Kingdom incorporates all these 'purposes'.


Now in other news:

I can relate big-time to your hoping. I was a heavly indoctrinated young-un. Dragged to chuch 2x's a week. Sometimes more. Forced to go to Bible Summer Camp every year. I believed it all full heartedly.
When the doubt started within me I held out hope. Who here can say they don't wish it were true? Paradise for eternity! Reunited with lost loved ones! The best of everything, no war, no hate, no sickness. When you thought it as all true then you start doubting you start hoping and wishing it all to be true.

Have you had the dreams yet?

No, I've not had the dreams. What are they pray tell?

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Evf said: 'It seems to me though that when CR says she hopes God exists that that is quite a big thing? I mean its not like wishing before you blow the candles out on a birthday cake now is it?

I just wonder why anyone would need to hope God exists if they believe he does. And if they don't believe then why do they hope if it won't change anything? And if they don't believe why do they say they are believers?''

And Luke made some interesting points about hope. Hope is an integral part of the human experience I would assert. I assume it can only 'be born' in someone as a result of something else, or lack of something, so it is a reactionary thing. You hope for something you haven't got and want, in my case I haven't got direct proof that God exists. The indirect proof I think I've got, generates the desire to want to know for sure. What I think I know about God makes me hope He really does exist. Dotard understands where I'm coming from.