RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 15, 2017 at 10:00 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2017 at 10:28 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 15, 2017 at 9:41 am)vorlon13 Wrote: there was a news report yesterday the firearm was legally procured after a background check, but that soon afterwards I was wondering how they knew
If he'd purchased it recently, it would still be databased. If he didn't, whomever sold it to him would, by federal law, be required to hold those records indefinitely (federal law only prohibits the collection of those records into a central location). Legal sales of guns create electronic and hard copy paper trails. Further, each and every legal "sks style" rifle in this country had to be imported, and so cataloged and declared by customs for taxation, lol.
There's no gun black hole of information and law in this country, whereby after an investigation it's a complete surprise as to how and where and when a person legally purchased a rifle. They can even track illegally purchased guns through their sales histories.
@What could stop someone, in any place...any of the things that ping the federal background check system. As to illinois...well, illinois requires personal sales to be recorded, doesn't have a personal sale background check loophole, and doesn't have to purge their background check records. Illinois also requires a gun owners license, which is good for 10 years -issued by state police. They also have a mandatory waiting period, even for rifles. In addition to what would ping the federal databases, Illinois has a longer and more detailed set of categories for restricted persons, unable to buy a firearm in their state and unable to procure a license in their state. Crazy, Bad Kid™ (not kidding), Criminal (in addition to the federal restrictions on felons illinois has a mountain of misdeamenors which it feels justify gun restrictions), Unwell, and anyone not a resident of the state.
One of those databases would have pinged him on charges of domestic abuse, and triggered the waiting period. That waiting period could then have been extended to 72 hours while the flag was resolved. When it failed to return a record of conviction during that period it would have been assigned the status of default proceed and the seller would then be free to transfer ownership of the firearm, provided that they then made record of the sale - which is available to state and federal investigators due to a standing order of compliance (24 hours or less the seller has to be able to pony up documents) issued when the ATF grants a licensed dealers permit, for example.
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