(April 3, 2011 at 7:33 pm)chatpilot Wrote: Don't know what you are talking about Vox, I don't agree that there is no such thing as marital rape. No means no, just because you are married does not mean she has to give it up every time you feel like having sex. I get your point about the military since I myself have served in the Marine Corp.
One thing we used to say is that freedom isn't free, the only way to realize that is if your ass is sitting in the thick of it taking enemy fire so that someone else could be back at home burning Korans and inciting the enemy to even greater violence. It's not just soldiers that are now targets of terrorist acts overseas, it's regular civilians who pay the price as well.
I served in the Navy for seventeen years. While that contract entitled the US Government to send me wherever it wanted (even into battle), it did not entitle the government to "take my body" at any time.
As for the marriage contract, I maintain the government should be out of the business of recognising marriages as legal vehicles. If the churches want to hold that marriage is a religious state, then fine. The government is prohibited in being entangled in religion.
If a person chooses to have a church ceremony, great for them, but it should have no meaning for the government. If that government feels there is an advantage to unions of adults, then they can regulate that separately from religious marriage.
Perhaps a minister can be required to read a "disclosure statement" for the contract of marriage to prospective brides and grooms, pointing out their faith takes away the freedom to say no by a wife, &c. Other contracts are required to be complete in their disclosures of the benefits and detriments of the contract before entering into it.
James
"Be ye not lost amongst Precept of Order." - Book of Uterus, 1:5, "Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her."