RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god.
August 31, 2017 at 11:46 am
(This post was last modified: August 31, 2017 at 11:53 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 31, 2017 at 11:36 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: A lot of folks are talking about worship and how they see that as an ego thing and how that turns them off. On the surface level, I can see how you guys feel that way.I already know someone who's the embodiment of love and goodness, on both counts she far exceeds your god by any description. I still don't bow before her, give myself over to her, or put her above all else.......and it;s not excactly like this is an accurate description of your god worship anyway.
But I think perhaps you're seeing it in a way that isn't as it was intended. Or at least in a way that is completely different from how I see it. To worship means to have reverence and adoration for, right? Now, if there was a God who was literally the embodiment of love and goodness itself, wouldn't it make sense to adore those things? To bow down before them, give yourself over to them, put them above all else?
You conveniently ignore the nasty shit in your appraisal of god, and then conveniently ignore further nasty shit in your worship thereof.
Quote:The way I see it, since my belief in God is that He is love and goodness, worshiping Him isn't just about praying and going to church. Though those things are definitely a supplemental/important part of it, in isolation by themselves they aren't true adoration for love and goodness. That part of it get's put into action by how we treat the people and the world around us. We can't really adore goodness and love if we don't strive for those things, make them a main focus of life, and act act accordingly.You must have a novel definition of "love and goodness". Meanwhile, I';m perfectly capable of adoring goodness and love..and striving for both, making them a focus of my life and acting accordingly in the absence of your god. To be frank, your variant of god belief would be an obstacle to each and every one of those things.
Quote:So it's not that God *needs* us to worship Him as part of some ego boost thing. It's that He *wants* us to worship Him because He made us for love and knows true happiness and fulfillment will come from embracing it and knowing it as fully as possible. And part of that comes from knowing and adoring Him, whom is Himself love.-and some parents make children in a bid to keep their spouses. I;m not sure how this should inform the child as to how to live it;s life - nor does it confer any duty on the child to fulfill the woeful intended purpose. If some god wants me to love him..then he should at least -try- to be lovable. I'm pretty easy, he wouldn't have to try very hard. Presuming he made me for love, he already knows this.
Quote:I know yall don't believe any of that, but I wanted to clarify the whole worship thing as I see it and was taught it.It doesn't matter whether or not a person believes in any of it, if it were true...it would still be ridiculous. An inept and lonely god who wishes me to ignore his faults in order to love him...but who won;t do the simplest of things that so many other people have done in order to induce my love in spite of or even because of their many faults. Your god sounds like an emotionally stunted child, who yearns for even lesser versions of himself to praise him specifically for being stunted.
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