RE: Tell Me Once More Progressives That Hillary and the WLB are "The Same"
September 24, 2017 at 4:52 pm
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2017 at 5:00 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(September 22, 2017 at 8:09 pm)FFaith Wrote: Bush did kill over a million people while torturing others and bringing in the era of mass surveillance, while David Duke would have endorsed whatever Republican was on top, no matter what.
[Emphasis added -- Thump]
I'd like to see an unbiased source for the emboldened claim, if you please?
(September 22, 2017 at 8:09 pm)FFaith Wrote: That was my only real point there. That I think it's silly to go around calling everyone who doesn't vote the same way you do a piece of shit [...]
I certainly agree with the general sentiment you're espousing here.
(September 22, 2017 at 8:09 pm)FFaith Wrote: [...] maybe the Hillary voters are right that 3rd party voters waste their vote, and only time will tell if that's the case, but I completely understand people like Dr. Cornell West that want to try and see what can happen, rather than folding and giving up on improvements to their communities without a fight.
I disagree with the idea that a third-party vote is wasted in all cases. I live in Texas. Trump won my state by 750,000 votes. Had I voted for Clinton (whom I found preferable, though wrong about some issues, and not fully trustworthy for my money), it would not have done a damned thing to change the Electoral College pickup for Trump. I voted third-party this last election, as I have done in most elections since 1994's Congressional elections because I think both parties are far too mired in the legalized bribery of our system, especially as it has grown since the Citizens United ruling. Even in those elections, my vote wasn't "wasted", because 1) I freely expressed my views and 2) I think third-parties of all stripes need every bit of support they can find in order to break the political duopoly that is strangling America.
(September 23, 2017 at 11:00 am)Minimalist Wrote: Last night on Real Time, Bill and Barney Frank discuss the snowflakes.
That segment starts at the 4:38 mark if you don't want to listen to them trash the GOP attempts to strip health care from Americans.
I didn't watch the entire vid, only the segment you singled out, but they're both absolutely right. Another way of saying it is the old saw that "politics is the art of the possible." You work with what you have because a partial success is better than a total failure.
