(September 27, 2017 at 3:03 am)Succubus Wrote:(September 26, 2017 at 4:58 pm)SteveII Wrote: Clever. However, Simon would need to show that it is plausibly actually possible for his objection to carry any weight. I don't think that is something he or you can do. Omnipotence does not mean the ability to do things that are not possible, especially not within the context of a overriding goal: free will.
Omnipotence means exactly what it says on the tin, unlimited power. Can god make a rock so big he can't lift it? Of course he can, and he can lift that rock and throw it right into the next galaxy.
No, don't ask me, ask a priest. It was your church that gave god so many ridiculous attributes.
No, that is not what omnipotence means. Your comment is a great example of not actually understanding Christianity but certain that you do.
Quote:The term omnipotent has been used to connote a number of different positions. These positions include, but are not limited to, the following:
Under many philosophical definitions of the term "deity", senses 2, 3 and 4 can be shown to be equivalent.
- A deity is able to do anything that it chooses to do.[1]
- A deity is able to do anything that is in accord with its own nature (thus, for instance, if it is a logical consequence of a deity's nature that what it speaks is truth, then it is not able to lie).
- Hold that it is part of a deity's nature to be consistent and that it would be inconsistent for said deity to go against its own laws unless there was a reason to do so.[2]
- A deity can bring about any state of affairs which is logically possible for anyone to bring about in that situation.
- A deity is able to do anything that corresponds with its omniscience and therefore with its worldplan.
- Every action performed in the world is 'actually' being performed by the deity, either due to omni-immanence, or because all actions must be 'supported' or 'permitted' by the deity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence#Meanings