RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
November 5, 2017 at 4:06 pm
(This post was last modified: November 5, 2017 at 4:09 pm by John V.)
(November 3, 2017 at 7:16 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Then why not create spiritual beings like himself, after all isn't that the destination for those who believe ?
He did create spiritual beings - angels.
Quote:For me, yes,
So why do you focus so much on suffering in this world?
Quote:but as a species definitely not, firstly two thirds of the world do not subscribe to the Christian world view, and even of those that do many the bible say many will not be considered real Christians. Those that do not believe spent eternity in never ending torture suffering for the sins that god knew they would commit before they were even bought into existence. So I would say a net no.
So, the choice facing God was:
1. Create, which rewards those who love him, but punishes those who hate him or want nothing to do with him; or
2. Not create, which rewards those who hate him or want nothing to do with him (as they avoid eternal punishment), but punishes those who love him (as they miss out on eternal happiness.
Isn't it much more logical to reward your loved ones and punish your enemies, than the opposite?
(November 4, 2017 at 12:18 am)KevinM1 Wrote: This.
The idea that a being who can construct an entire universe actually did it so he could spend eternity with a bunch of glorified monkeys who behaved the way he likes is so fucking asinine, it's hilarious.
And people kill each other over this shit.
That people who claim it's a fairy tale spend valuable time discussing it is even more hilarious. And don't bother saying it's because of the real world impact of religious belief, as this site isn't changing jack shit.